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Re: [PATCH 2/2] diff-merges: introduce '-d' option

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Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com>
Date
Sep 14, 2023, 23:56 UTC
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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
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> Sergey Organov <sorganov@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> Sounds very straight-forward.
>>>
>>> Given that "--first-parent" in "git log --first-parent -p" already
>>> defeats "-m" and shows the diff against the first parent only,
>>> people may find it confusing if "git log -d" does not act as a
>>> shorthand for that.
>>
>> It doesn't, and I believe it's a good thing, as primary function of
>> --first-parent is to change history traversal rules, and if -d did that,
>> it would be extremely confusing.
>
> I am not sure about that.
>
>> Also, --first-parent is correctly documented as implying
>> --diff-merges=first-parent, not as defeating -m.
>
> Yes, exactly.  That makes me even more convinced that the intuitive
> behaviour, when we say "we have this great short-hand option that
> lets your 'git log' to do the first-parent thing with patch output",
> is to do the first-parent traversal _and_ show first-parent patches.
>
> "-d" is documented as a short-hand for "--diff-merges=first-parent
> --patch" and not for "--first-parent --patch", so the behaviour may
> correctly match documentation, but that does not make the documented
> behaviour an intuitive one.  And a behaviour that is not intuitive
> is confusing.

I think both behaviors make sense, provided they are correctly documented. I just prefer the one that is more basic, yet allows to achieve things that another one does not.

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>
>> If we read resulting documentation with a fresh eye, -d is similar to
>> --cc, and -c, just producing yet another kind of output, so I think all
>> this fits together quite nicely and shouldn't cause confusion.
>
> Another thing is that showing first-parent patch for merges while
> letting the traversal also visit the second-parent chain is not as
> useful an option as it could be, even though it is not so bad as the
> original "-m -p" that also showed second-parent patch for merges as
> well.

I don't see why desire to look at diff-to-first-parent on "side" branches is any different from desire to look at them on "primary" branch, sorry, so I still don't want "-d" to affect traversal or other commit filtering rules. We do have --first-parent as well as a few others for that.

> People would have to say "log --first-parent -p" to get the
> first-parent traversal with first-parent patch output, and they
> would not behefit from having "-d".
Well, at least they can now say "log --first-parent -d" as well ;)

Honestly, the "log --first-parent -p" (without "-m") suddenly producing diffs for merge commits is already unnatural, needs yet another special-casing in documentation, and then, finally, this relatively new behavior was introduced exactly because there were no "-d" at that time, to save typing "-m". The latter is yet another example of why "-d" in its current form is a good idea.

That said, if you feel like there is place for a short-cut for this particular use-case, it'd be fine with me, say:

--fpd:
  short-cut for "--first-parent -d"
would fit quite nicely into the picture, I think.

Thanks, -- Sergey Organov

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  1. 0/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 9, 2023
  2. 2/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 9, 2023
  3. Junio C HamanoSep 11, 2023
  4. Sergey OrganovSep 12, 2023
  5. Junio C HamanoSep 14, 2023
  6. Sergey OrganovSep 14, 2023
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 15, 2023
  8. Sergey OrganovSep 16, 2023
  9. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2023
  10. Sergey OrganovSep 26, 2023
  11. Junio C HamanoSep 26, 2023
  12. Sergey OrganovSep 26, 2023
  13. 1/2 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Sep 9, 2023
  14. Junio C HamanoSep 11, 2023
  15. Sergey OrganovSep 12, 2023
  16. Junio C HamanoSep 13, 2023
  17. Sergey OrganovSep 18, 2023
  18. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2023
  19. Sergey OrganovSep 19, 2023
  20. 0/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 20, 2023
  21. 2/2 diff-merges: introduce '-d' optionSergey Organov, Sep 20, 2023
  22. 1/2 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Sep 20, 2023
  23. 0/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  24. 2/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  25. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  26. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  27. 1/3 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  28. Eric SunshineOct 4, 2023
  29. Sergey OrganovOct 4, 2023
  30. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  31. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  32. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  33. Elijah NewrenOct 6, 2023
  34. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  35. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  36. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2023
  37. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  38. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2023
  39. Elijah NewrenOct 7, 2023
  40. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2023
  41. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2023
  42. Elijah NewrenOct 9, 2023
  43. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2023
  44. [silly] worldview documents?Junio C Hamano, Oct 10, 2023
  45. Emily ShafferOct 10, 2023
  46. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  47. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  48. 3/3 completion: complete '--dd'Sergey Organov, Oct 4, 2023
  49. Junio C HamanoOct 5, 2023
  50. Sergey OrganovOct 6, 2023
  51. 0/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  52. 2/3 diff-merges: introduce '--dd' optionSergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  53. 1/3 diff-merges: improve --diff-merges documentationSergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  54. 3/3 completion: complete '--dd'Sergey Organov, Oct 9, 2023
  55. Junio C HamanoOct 9, 2023

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