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Re: [RFC PATCH v2] docs: document upcoming breaking changes

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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May 14, 2024, 15:45 UTC
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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
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>> * annotate, blame, pickaxe
>> You've mentioned `annotate` below, but we could also remove `pickaxe`.
>
> I think most oldtimers use git-blame(1), whereas git-annotate(1) has
> been introduced to make the command less judgemental. I'd thus say that
> this falls into the category of commands that we wouldn't want to
> deprecate because they are both used.

Personally I do not think blame is "judgemental" in the first place, and I do not think being "judgemental" is bad to begin with.

"git annotate" was there first as a Perl script, added by c65e8987 (Add git-annotate, a tool for assigning blame., 2006-02-20). It is intersting to note that "annotate" was advertised as a tool for assigning blame.

"git blame" was written almost around the same time but with "-c" compatiblity mode to mimick "git annotate", added by cbfb73d7 (Add git-blame, a tool for assigning blame., 2006-02-21).

A healthy competition between "annotate" and "blame" continued until f789e347 (Remove git-annotate.perl and create a builtin-alias for git-blame, 2006-10-09) retired the "git annotate" Perl script, and replaced it with an invocation of "git blame -c".

"git blame" was rewritten under the codename "git pickaxe" (cf. https://lore.kernel.org/git/7vr6xddm7h.fsf@assigned-by-dhcp.cox.net/), and was released at cee7f245 (git-pickaxe: blame rewritten., 2006-10-19). acca687f (git-pickaxe: retire pickaxe, 2006-11-08) made it take over the old implementation of "git blame".

The name "pickaxe" can be easily removed, as the log message of acca687f already said back then. As everybody noticed, it is not even documented.

>> * log, whatchanged, shortlog
>> Here `log` already handles what the other two commands do.
>
> Does git-log(1) really support everything that git-shortlog(1) does?

Of course not. The filtering behaviour of shortlog is unique to the command.

> This is of course a much larger topic and something that is very much up
> for discussion. But in any case, it indicates that a deprecation would
> be premature at this point in time.

Yes, please exclude anything that needs new development while discussing this topic. Anybody jumping into this discussion should take the word "upcoming" in the title more seriously.

So I won't talk about unifying "describe" and "name-rev" somehow ;-)
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>> * verify-commit, verify-pack, verify-tag
>> These could probably be subcommands under the verify command.
>
> Same here -- as we don't have the command yet, I think it's premature
> the old commands to a list of deprecations.
>
>> * diff, diff-files, diff-index, diff-tree
>> Here, `diff` seems to handle everything that the others do.

No, diff-files, diff-index and diff-tree can do their thing without getting broken by end-user configuration. Writing your script with "git diff" and you can keep both halves.

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  2. Johannes SchindelinMay 7, 2024
  3. Patrick SteinhardtMay 8, 2024
  4. Junio C HamanoMay 7, 2024
  5. Patrick SteinhardtMay 8, 2024
  6. Junio C HamanoMay 8, 2024
  7. Dragan SimicMay 8, 2024
  8. Patrick SteinhardtMay 10, 2024
  9. Dragan SimicMay 10, 2024
  10. Phillip WoodMay 8, 2024
  11. Patrick SteinhardtMay 8, 2024
  12. Justin ToblerMay 10, 2024
  13. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2024
  14. Patrick SteinhardtMay 14, 2024
  15. docs: document upcoming breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, May 14, 2024
  16. Karthik NayakMay 14, 2024
  17. Patrick SteinhardtMay 14, 2024
  18. Junio C HamanoMay 14, 2024
  19. Dragan SimicMay 14, 2024
  20. docs: document upcoming breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, May 24, 2024
  21. Junio C HamanoMay 24, 2024
  22. Patrick SteinhardtMay 30, 2024
  23. 0/4 docs: document upcoming breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, May 31, 2024
  24. 1/4 docs: introduce document to announce breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, May 31, 2024
  25. Junio C HamanoMay 31, 2024
  26. Patrick SteinhardtJun 3, 2024
  27. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2024
  28. Patrick SteinhardtJun 4, 2024
  29. 2/4 BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"Patrick Steinhardt, May 31, 2024
  30. Junio C HamanoMay 31, 2024
  31. 3/4 BreakingChanges: document removal of graftingPatrick Steinhardt, May 31, 2024
  32. 4/4 BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkoutPatrick Steinhardt, May 31, 2024
  33. Junio C HamanoMay 31, 2024
  34. Todd ZullingerMay 31, 2024
  35. Junio C HamanoMay 31, 2024
  36. Patrick SteinhardtMay 31, 2024
  37. 0/4 docs: document upcoming breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 3, 2024
  38. 1/4 docs: introduce document to announce breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 3, 2024
  39. Phillip WoodJun 3, 2024
  40. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2024
  41. Patrick SteinhardtJun 4, 2024
  42. 2/4 BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"Patrick Steinhardt, Jun 3, 2024
  43. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2024
  44. Patrick SteinhardtJun 4, 2024
  45. Junio C HamanoJun 4, 2024
  46. 3/4 BreakingChanges: document removal of graftingPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 3, 2024
  47. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2024
  48. 4/4 BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkoutPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 3, 2024
  49. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2024
  50. Patrick SteinhardtJun 4, 2024
  51. 0/4 docs: document upcoming breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 4, 2024
  52. 1/4 docs: introduce document to announce breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 4, 2024
  53. Junio C HamanoJun 4, 2024
  54. Patrick SteinhardtJun 5, 2024
  55. Junio C HamanoJun 5, 2024
  56. Junio C HamanoJun 5, 2024
  57. Patrick SteinhardtJun 6, 2024
  58. 2/4 BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"Patrick Steinhardt, Jun 4, 2024
  59. 3/4 BreakingChanges: document removal of graftingPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 4, 2024
  60. Junio C HamanoJun 4, 2024
  61. 4/4 BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkoutPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 4, 2024
  62. Phillip WoodJun 4, 2024
  63. Junio C HamanoJun 4, 2024
  64. Patrick SteinhardtJun 5, 2024
  65. 0/4 docs: document upcoming breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 14, 2024
  66. 1/4 docs: introduce document to announce breaking changesPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 14, 2024
  67. Junio C HamanoJun 14, 2024
  68. 2/4 BreakingChanges: document upcoming change from "sha1" to "sha256"Patrick Steinhardt, Jun 14, 2024
  69. 3/4 BreakingChanges: document removal of graftingPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 14, 2024
  70. 4/4 BreakingChanges: document that we do not plan to deprecate git-checkoutPatrick Steinhardt, Jun 14, 2024

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