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Re: master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!?

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RGRon Garret <ron1@flownet.com>
Date
Jan 30, 2010, 03:26 UTC
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In article <7vbpgc8fhb.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org>,
 Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> wrote:
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> Ron Garret <ron1@flownet.com> writes:
> 
> > 1.  The term "detached HEAD" is inherently misleading.  A detached HEAD 
> > isn't detached from anything, it's just pointing to the middle of a 
> > branch, which is to say, to a commit that happens to already have 
> > descendants.  For that matter, the name HEAD is itself misleading, since 
> > HEAD need not be the head of a branch (though normally it is).  A better 
> > name for HEAD would have been CURRENT or ACTIVE.  I recognize it's 
> > probably too late to change it now.
> 
> This description, especially the phrase "middle of a branch" shows that
> you don't understand git yet.
That could well be, but it's not for lack of trying :-)
> A git branch is _not_ a line (nor multiple
> lines) of development.  It is merely a _point_ in the history.

By "middle of a branch" I simply meant "a commit that already has one or more descendants" (or, to be even more precise, a commit that has one or more commits that reference that commit as one of their predecessors). I do understand that histories aren't linear.

> "A commit that is in the middle of an ancestry chain with existing
> descendants" can be at the tip of a branch and does not have anything to
> do with detached HEAD state.
Ah, then you're right.  I really don't get it yet.
> When HEAD points at a branch, making a commit advances _that_ branch.  And
> we say you are "on that branch".  When HEAD is detached, because it is not
> attached to anything, it advances no branch.  "detached HEAD" is detached
> in the very real sense.  It is not attached to _any_ branch.

OK. The docs do not make that clear at all. In fact, the following statement, copied straight from the manual, flatly contradicts what you just said:

"The special symbol "HEAD" can always be used to refer to the current branch."

Always.  Except when it can't.
Soooo.....

Sometimes HEAD can refer to a branch head which is a pointer to a commit, and sometimes HEAD can refer to a commit directly without indirecting through a branch head (lower case), in which case it is detached. Is that right?

If that's true, then I'm back to wondering what good is a detached head. Why would you ever want one? What can you do with a detached head that you could not do just as easily without one?

rg
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Message 36 of 94 in “master^ is not a local branch -- huh?!?”
  1. Ron1Jan 29, 2010
  2. Jacob HelwigJan 29, 2010
  3. Sverre RabbelierJan 29, 2010
  4. Jacob HelwigJan 29, 2010
  5. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2010
  6. Sverre RabbelierJan 29, 2010
  7. checkout: warn about 'branch name' rather than 'local branch'Sverre Rabbelier, Jan 29, 2010
  8. checkout: Fix test for s/local branch/branch name/ change.Jacob Helwig, Jan 29, 2010
  9. Sverre RabbelierJan 29, 2010
  10. Nicolas PitreJan 29, 2010
  11. Ron GarretJan 29, 2010
  12. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2010
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  25. Nicolas PitreJan 29, 2010
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  31. Nicolas PitreJan 30, 2010
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  34. Ron GarretJan 30, 2010
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  60. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2010
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  63. Johannes SchindelinJan 29, 2010
  64. Ron1Jan 29, 2010
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  67. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2010
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  73. Ron GarretJan 29, 2010
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  76. Ron GarretJan 29, 2010
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  80. Junio C HamanoJan 30, 2010
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  86. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2010
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  88. Michael WittenJan 30, 2010
  89. Junio C HamanoJan 30, 2010
  90. Ron GarretJan 30, 2010
  91. Junio C HamanoJan 30, 2010
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  93. Junio C HamanoJan 30, 2010
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