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Re: [PATCH] ls-tree: fix --no-full-name

From
PWPhillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com>
Date
Jul 28, 2023, 09:45 UTC
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On 28/07/2023 07:12, René Scharfe wrote:
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>>> Right.  Perhaps --[[no-]no-]doubt?  Looks a bit silly with its nested
>>> brackets, but it's more correct, because it documents all three accepted
>>> forms, including the no-less one.
>>
>> It may look a bit silly but looks very tempting.  Also it is not
>> much longer than "--[no-]no-doubt".
> 
> Yes, it's quite compact.  But is it they still legible?
> 
>      --no-index            find in contents not managed by git
>      --[no-]no-index       find in contents not managed by git
>      --[[no-]no-]index     find in contents not managed by git
>      --[no-[no-]]index     find in contents not managed by git
> 
> The last two document all three variants, but is it still obvious that
> the help text is supposed to be about the one with a single "no-"?
> That's something that has to be learned, I suspect.  No good making the
> short help too cryptic.  Hmm, how about:
> 
>      --no-index, --[no-[no-]]index
>                            find in contents not managed by git

I think spelling out the positive and negative options separately makes it much clearer, but in that case I think we'd be better just to show

	--no-index, --index

adding "[no-[no]]" is just going to confuse users. If we had a convention of "[<short>, ]<positive long>; <negative long>" then I think it should be clear to users how to negate a given option

     -v, --invert-match; --no-invert-match
				show non-matching lines
     -I, --no-index; --index	find in contents not managed by git

Spelling out both versions is a bit verbose but I think it is worth it to avoid "--[no-]no-index"

One other thought is to mark options that can be negated with a symbol like '*' and add a footnote saying those options can be negated.

Best Wishes
Phillip
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  1. ls-tree: fix --no-full-nameRené Scharfe, Jul 18, 2023
  2. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2023
  3. Junio C HamanoJul 18, 2023
  4. René ScharfeJul 21, 2023
  5. René ScharfeJul 21, 2023
  6. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  7. René ScharfeJul 21, 2023
  8. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  9. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  10. René ScharfeJul 24, 2023
  11. Junio C HamanoJul 24, 2023
  12. René ScharfeJul 24, 2023
  13. Junio C HamanoJul 24, 2023
  14. René ScharfeJul 28, 2023
  15. Phillip WoodJul 28, 2023
  16. René ScharfeJul 29, 2023
  17. Junio C HamanoJul 31, 2023
  18. Junio C HamanoAug 4, 2023
  19. Phillip WoodAug 4, 2023
  20. René ScharfeAug 5, 2023
  21. 0/5 show negatability of options in short helpRené Scharfe, Jul 24, 2023
  22. 1/5 subtree: disallow --no-{help,quiet,debug,branch,message}René Scharfe, Jul 24, 2023
  23. 2/5 t1502, docs: disallow --no-helpRené Scharfe, Jul 24, 2023
  24. 3/5 t1502: move optionspec help output to a fileRené Scharfe, Jul 24, 2023
  25. 4/5 t1502: test option negationRené Scharfe, Jul 24, 2023
  26. 5/5 parse-options: show negatability of options in short helpRené Scharfe, Jul 24, 2023
  27. 0/8 show negatability of options in short helpRené Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  28. 1/8 subtree: disallow --no-{help,quiet,debug,branch,message}René Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  29. 2/8 t1502, docs: disallow --no-helpRené Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  30. 3/8 t1502: move optionspec help output to a fileRené Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  31. 4/8 t1502: test option negationRené Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  32. 5/8 parse-options: show negatability of options in short helpRené Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  33. 6/8 parse-options: factor out usage_indent() and usage_padding()René Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  34. 7/8 parse-options: no --[no-]no-...René Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  35. 8/8 parse-options: simplify usage_padding()René Scharfe, Aug 5, 2023
  36. Junio C HamanoAug 5, 2023
  37. show-branch: fix --no-sparseRené Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  38. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  39. René ScharfeJul 21, 2023
  40. show-branch: disallow --no-{date,topo}-orderRené Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  41. reset: disallow --no-{mixed,soft,hard,merge,keep}René Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  42. pack-objects: fix --no-quietRené Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  43. pack-objects: fix --no-keep-true-parentsRené Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  44. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  45. branch: disallow --no-{all,remotes}René Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  46. am: unify definition of --keep-cr and --no-keep-crRené Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  47. describe: fix --no-exact-matchRené Scharfe, Jul 21, 2023
  48. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 21, 2023
  50. Jeff KingAug 8, 2023
  51. Jeff KingAug 8, 2023
  52. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2023
  53. Jeff KingAug 9, 2023
  54. René ScharfeAug 9, 2023
  55. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2023
  56. Jeff KingAug 10, 2023
  57. Junio C HamanoAug 10, 2023
  58. René ScharfeAug 10, 2023
  59. Jeff KingAug 10, 2023
  60. René ScharfeAug 10, 2023
  61. Jeff KingAug 11, 2023
  62. René ScharfeAug 11, 2023
  63. Jeff KingAug 11, 2023
  64. René ScharfeAug 12, 2023
  65. Jeff KingAug 11, 2023
  66. René ScharfeAug 11, 2023

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