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Re: [PATCH 02/10] hash: add a constant for the original hash algorithm

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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
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Jul 1, 2025, 11:35 UTC
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On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 08:43:07PM +0000, brian m. carlson wrote:
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> On 2025-06-20 at 01:56:02, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:
> > 
> > > We have a a variety of uses of GIT_HASH_SHA1 littered throughout our
> > > code.  Some of these really mean to represent specifically SHA-1, but
> > > some actually represent the original hash algorithm used in Git which is
> > > implied by older formats and protocols which do not contain hash
> > > information.  For instance, the bundle v1 and v2 formats do not contain
> > > hash algorithm information, and thus SHA-1 is implied by the use of
> > > these formats.
> > 
> > Does that mean use of _ORIGINAL is a sign that these places should
> > keep using SHA-1 and should not change?
> 
> Yes.

I think this makes sense. There have been a bunch of locations in our code base where I was left wondering whether the use of SHA1 is intentional or not. Making these explicit should make it a lot more obvious into which of these categories a callsite falls into.

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> > > Add a constant for documentary purposes which indicates this value.  It
> > > will always be the same as SHA-1, since this is an essential part of
> > > these formats, but its use indicates this particular reason and not any
> > > other reason why SHA-1 might be used.
> > 
> > I am not sure what this means.  If we use GIT_HASH_SHA1 in such
> > places explicitly (as opposed to GIT_HASH_DEFAULT), isn't it a sign
> > enough that with different versions of Git, that particular code
> > path should keep using SHA-1 no matter what the default is?
> 
> If we have a test helper that computes hashes and someone specified
> "sha1" on the command line, that's GIT_HASH_SHA1.  Someone said, "I'd
> like to use SHA-1."  Similarly, in the reftable code, we can read the
> byte value indicating that the reftable is in SHA-1 and that's an
> explicit decision.

Tiny nit: even for the reftable format it is not always clear whether it is GIT_HASH_SHA1 or GIT_HASH_ORIGINAL. There are two versions of the format:

  - The first version implicitly uses SHA1, so this would be
    GIT_HASH_ORIGINAL.
  - The second version specifies the hash format, so it would be either
    GIT_HASH_SHA1 or GIT_HASH_SHA256.
But again, I think that this distinction is actually useful.
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> If we default to SHA-1 because nobody specified extensions.objectformat,
> then that's GIT_HASH_ORIGINAL.  Nobody made a decision or opted into an
> algorithm; we just didn't think hard enough about cryptographic agility
> in the original Git and we assumed SHA-1.
> 
> They're both the same numeric constant here and always will be (even if,
> in a future version of Git, we get rid of SHA-1 altogether and we
> otherwise die on that code).  But there's a difference in intention: one
> explicitly stated SHA-1 as opposed to a different algorithm and one just
> got a default because that's the compatible legacy behaviour.
Yup.
Patrick
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Message 16 of 47 in “Add SHA-256 by default as a breaking change”
  1. 00/10 Add SHA-256 by default as a breaking changebrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  2. 01/10 hash: add a constant for the default hash algorithmbrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  3. 03/10 builtin: use default hash when outside a repositorybrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  4. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  5. Patrick SteinhardtJul 1, 2025
  6. brian m. carlsonJul 1, 2025
  7. Patrick SteinhardtJul 2, 2025
  8. 04/10 Use original hash for legacy formatsbrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  9. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  10. brian m. carlsonJun 20, 2025
  11. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  12. Patrick SteinhardtJul 1, 2025
  13. 02/10 hash: add a constant for the original hash algorithmbrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  14. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  15. brian m. carlsonJun 20, 2025
  16. Patrick SteinhardtJul 1, 2025
  17. 05/10 setup: use the default algorithm to initialize repo formatbrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  18. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  19. brian m. carlsonJun 20, 2025
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  21. 08/10 t4042: choose the built-in hash outside of a repobrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  22. 07/10 t1007: choose the built-in hash outside of a repobrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  23. 06/10 t: default to compile-time default hash if not setbrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  24. 09/10 t5300: choose the built-in hash outside of a repobrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  25. 10/10 Enable SHA-256 by default in breaking changes modebrian m. carlson, Jun 20, 2025
  26. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  27. brian m. carlsonJun 20, 2025
  28. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  29. brian m. carlsonJun 20, 2025
  30. Junio C HamanoJun 20, 2025
  31. brian m. carlsonJun 20, 2025
  32. Patrick SteinhardtJul 1, 2025
  33. 00/11 Add SHA-256 by default as a breaking changebrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  34. 02/11 hash: add a constant for the legacy hash algorithmbrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  35. 01/11 hash: add a constant for the default hash algorithmbrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  36. 04/11 Use legacy hash for legacy formatsbrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  37. 03/11 builtin: use default hash when outside a repositorybrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  38. 06/11 t: default to compile-time default hash if not setbrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  39. 05/11 setup: use the default algorithm to initialize repo formatbrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  40. 08/11 t4042: choose the built-in hash outside of a repobrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  41. 07/11 t1007: choose the built-in hash outside of a repobrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  42. 10/11 help: add a build option for default hashbrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  43. 11/11 Enable SHA-256 by default in breaking changes modebrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  44. 09/11 t5300: choose the built-in hash outside of a repobrian m. carlson, Jul 1, 2025
  45. Junio C HamanoJul 1, 2025
  46. Patrick SteinhardtJul 2, 2025
  47. Kristoffer HaugsbakkJul 2, 2025

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