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Re: Git-commits mailing list feed.

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PJPaul Jakma <paul@clubi.ie>
Date
Apr 25, 2005, 01:35 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, David A. Wheeler wrote:
> It may be better to have them as simple detached signatures, which 
> are completely separate files (see gpg --detached). Yeah, gpg 
> currently implements detached signatures by repeating what gets 
> signed, which is unfortunate, but the _idea_ is the right one.
Hmm, what do you mean by "repeating what gets signed"?
> Yes, and see my earlier posting.  It'd be easy to store signatures in
> the current objects directory, of course.  The trick is to be able
> to go from signed-object to the signature;
Two ways:
1. An index of sigs to signed-object.
(or more generally: objects to referring-objects)
2. Just give people the URI of the signature, let them (or their
    tools) follow the 'parent' link to the object of interest
> this could be done just by creating a subdirectory using a variant 
> of the name of the signed-object's file, and in that directory 
> store the hash values of the signatures.  E.G.:
Show 6 quoted lines
> 00/
>    3b128932189018329839019          <- object to sign
>    3b128932189018329839019.d/
>    0143709289032890234323451
> 01/
>    43709289032890234323451          <- signature

You could hack it in to the namespace somehow I guess. I'm not sure hacking it in would be a good thing though.

I think it might be more useful just to provide a general index to lookup 'referring' objects (if git does not already - I dont think it does, but I dont know enough to know for sure). So you could ask "which {commit,tag,signature,tree}(s) refer(s) to this object?" - that general concept will always work. If you wanted to make the implementation of this index use some kind of sub directory as in the above, fine..

See also method 2 above. Which would be more efficient for tools if, within a project, some developers sign their 'updates' and some dont.. (you never need to check whether there's a signature or not - you'll know it from the URI automatically).

Show 5 quoted lines
> There are LOTS of reasons for storing signatures so that they can 
> be checked later on, just like there are lots of reasons for 
> storing old code... they give you evidence that the reputed history 
> is true (and if you doubt it, they give you a way to limit the 
> doubt).
Indeed.
Anyway, we shall see what Linus does. :)

(But I do hope at least that signatures are /not/ included inline using BEGIN PGP.. in the object that is signed.)

regards,
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  1. David WoodhouseApr 21, 2005
  2. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  3. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  4. Fabian FranzApr 23, 2005
  5. Andreas GalApr 23, 2005
  6. SeanApr 23, 2005
  7. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  8. SeanApr 23, 2005
  9. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  10. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  11. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  12. SeanApr 23, 2005
  13. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  14. SeanApr 23, 2005
  15. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  16. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2005
  17. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  18. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2005
  19. Paul JakmaApr 24, 2005
  20. Paul JakmaApr 24, 2005
  21. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  22. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  23. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  24. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  25. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  26. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2005
  27. Fabian FranzApr 25, 2005
  28. Andreas GalApr 25, 2005
  29. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2005
  30. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  31. David GreavesApr 25, 2005
  32. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  33. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  34. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  35. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  36. New option (-H) for rpush/rpull to update HEADAndreas Gal, Apr 25, 2005
  37. Daniel BarkalowApr 25, 2005
  38. Andreas GalApr 25, 2005
  39. Daniel BarkalowApr 25, 2005
  40. Matt DomschApr 25, 2005
  41. Jan HarkesApr 25, 2005
  42. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  43. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  44. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  45. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  46. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2005
  47. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  48. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  49. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  50. Git transfer protocols (was: Re: Git-commits mailing list feed)Mike Taht, Apr 23, 2005
  51. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  52. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  53. Suggestion: generalize signed tags into "assertion objects"David A. Wheeler, Apr 23, 2005
  54. Jeff GarzikApr 23, 2005
  55. David WoodhouseApr 25, 2005

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