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Re: Git-commits mailing list feed.

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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Date
Apr 23, 2005, 17:45 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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> 	commit a2755a80f40e5794ddc20e00f781af9d6320fafb
> 	tag v2.6.12-rc3
> 	signer Linus Torvalds
> 
> 	This is my official original 2.6.12-rc2 release
> 
> 	-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> 	....
> 	-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Btw, in case it wasn't clear, one of the advantages of this is that these objects are really _not_ versioned themselves, and that they are totally independent of the objects that they actually tag.

They spread together with all the other objects, so they fit very well into the whole git infrastructure, but the real commit objects don't have any linkages to the tag and the tag objects themselves don't have any history amongst themselves, so you can create a tag at any (later) time, and it doesn't actually change the commit in any way or affect other tags in any way.

In particular, many different people can tag the same commit, and they don't even need to tage their _own_ commit - you can use this tag objects to show that you trust somebody elses commit. You can also throw the tag objects away, since nothing else depends on them and they have nothing linking to them - so you can make a "one-time" tag object that you can pass off to somebody else, and then delete it, and now it's just a "temporary tag" that tells the recipient _something_ about the commit you tagged, but that doesn't stay around in the archive.

That's important, because I actually want to have the ability for people who want me to pull from their archive to send me a message that says "pull from this archive, and btw, here's the tag that not only tells you which head to merge, but also proves that it was me who created it".

Will we use this? Maybe not. Quite frankly, I think human trust is much more important than automated trust through some technical means, but I think it's good to have the _support_ for this kind of trust mechanism built into the system. And I think it's a good way for distributors etc to say: "this is the source code we used to build the kernel that we released, and we tagged it 'v2.6.11-mm6-crazy-fixes-3.96'".

And if my key gets stolen, I can re-generate all the tags (from my archive of tags that I trust), and sign them with a new key, and revoke the trust of my old key. This is why it's important that tags don't have interdependencies, they are just a one-way "this key trusts that release and calls it xyzzy".

		Linus
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Message 3 of 55 in “Re: Git-commits mailing list feed.”
  1. David WoodhouseApr 21, 2005
  2. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  3. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  4. Fabian FranzApr 23, 2005
  5. Andreas GalApr 23, 2005
  6. SeanApr 23, 2005
  7. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  8. SeanApr 23, 2005
  9. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  10. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  11. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  12. SeanApr 23, 2005
  13. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  14. SeanApr 23, 2005
  15. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  16. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2005
  17. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  18. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2005
  19. Paul JakmaApr 24, 2005
  20. Paul JakmaApr 24, 2005
  21. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  22. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  23. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  24. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  25. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  26. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2005
  27. Fabian FranzApr 25, 2005
  28. Andreas GalApr 25, 2005
  29. Linus TorvaldsApr 25, 2005
  30. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  31. David GreavesApr 25, 2005
  32. David A. WheelerApr 25, 2005
  33. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  34. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  35. Paul JakmaApr 25, 2005
  36. New option (-H) for rpush/rpull to update HEADAndreas Gal, Apr 25, 2005
  37. Daniel BarkalowApr 25, 2005
  38. Andreas GalApr 25, 2005
  39. Daniel BarkalowApr 25, 2005
  40. Matt DomschApr 25, 2005
  41. Jan HarkesApr 25, 2005
  42. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  43. Thomas GlanzmannApr 23, 2005
  44. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  45. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  46. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2005
  47. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  48. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  49. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  50. Git transfer protocols (was: Re: Git-commits mailing list feed)Mike Taht, Apr 23, 2005
  51. Jan HarkesApr 23, 2005
  52. Linus TorvaldsApr 23, 2005
  53. Suggestion: generalize signed tags into "assertion objects"David A. Wheeler, Apr 23, 2005
  54. Jeff GarzikApr 23, 2005
  55. David WoodhouseApr 25, 2005

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