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Re: Pull is Mostly Evil

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David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Date
May 3, 2014, 02:18 UTC
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Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
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> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 02:11:05PM -0500, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>
>> Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> > If we step back a bit, because we are forcing him to differentiate
>> > these two pulls in his mental model anyway, perhaps it may help
>> > people (both new and old) if we had a new command to make the
>> > distinction stand out more.  What if the command sequence were like
>> > this instead?
>> > 
>> >     $ git checkout maint
>> >     $ git update [ origin maint ]
>> > 
>> >     $ git pull [--no-ff] developer-remote topic-branch
>> >     $ git push [ origin maint ]
>> > 
>> > where the new command 'update' enforces the '--ff-only' update.  And
>> > then we would stop telling "'git pull' first" when a push does not
>> > fast-forward.
>> 
>> In addition to barf when it's not a fast-forward, such command can
>> switch the parents, so it appears 'maint' was merged to 'origin/maint'.
>> Many people have complained about this order.
>
> I realize this has veered off into talking about an "update" command,
> and not necessarily "pull", but since there a lot of proposals floating
> around, I wanted to make one point: if we are going to do such a switch,
> let's please make it something the user explicitly turns on.

A safety catch defaulting to a factory position of "off" is not going to stop inexperienced people from shooting themselves in the foot.

-- 
David Kastrup
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Message 21 of 50 in “Pull is Mostly Evil”
  1. Marc BranchaudMay 2, 2014
  2. David KastrupMay 2, 2014
  3. Philip OakleyMay 2, 2014
  4. Felipe ContrerasMay 2, 2014
  5. Philip OakleyMay 2, 2014
  6. Jonathan NiederMay 2, 2014
  7. Philip OakleyMay 3, 2014
  8. Felipe ContrerasMay 2, 2014
  9. Philip OakleyMay 3, 2014
  10. Felipe ContrerasMay 3, 2014
  11. David LangMay 2, 2014
  12. David KastrupMay 2, 2014
  13. Junio C HamanoMay 2, 2014
  14. Felipe ContrerasMay 2, 2014
  15. Junio C HamanoMay 2, 2014
  16. Felipe ContrerasMay 2, 2014
  17. Jeff KingMay 2, 2014
  18. Felipe ContrerasMay 2, 2014
  19. Jeff KingMay 2, 2014
  20. Felipe ContrerasMay 2, 2014
  21. David KastrupMay 3, 2014
  22. Junio C HamanoMay 6, 2014
  23. Felipe ContrerasMay 6, 2014
  24. Richard HansenMay 3, 2014
  25. David KastrupMay 3, 2014
  26. Felipe ContrerasMay 3, 2014
  27. David KastrupMay 3, 2014
  28. David LangMay 4, 2014
  29. Felipe ContrerasMay 4, 2014
  30. David KastrupMay 4, 2014
  31. James DenholmMay 4, 2014
  32. David KastrupMay 4, 2014
  33. Felipe ContrerasMay 4, 2014
  34. James DenholmMay 4, 2014
  35. David KastrupMay 4, 2014
  36. Felipe ContrerasMay 3, 2014
  37. Richard HansenMay 3, 2014
  38. Felipe ContrerasMay 4, 2014
  39. Richard HansenMay 4, 2014
  40. Felipe ContrerasMay 4, 2014
  41. Richard HansenMay 4, 2014
  42. Felipe ContrerasMay 4, 2014
  43. Richard HansenMay 5, 2014
  44. Felipe ContrerasMay 5, 2014
  45. Max KirillovMay 7, 2014
  46. John SzakmeisterMay 3, 2014
  47. Richard HansenMay 5, 2014
  48. Felipe ContrerasMay 5, 2014
  49. Philip OakleyMay 2, 2014
  50. Marc BranchaudMay 9, 2014

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