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Re: [OT] Re: C++ *for Git*

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David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Date
Sep 23, 2007, 21:31 UTC
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Dmitry Potapov <dpotapov@nbs-eng.ru> writes:
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> On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 09:54:10AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>>  - the stuff C++ *does* have is usually nasty. Implicit
>>  initializers and destructors and the magic lifetime rules of
>>  objects etc
>
> I am not sure what is wrong with initializers and destructors in
> C++, but certainly there is no magic lifetime rules in C++, as it is
> fully determined by the scope.

It has been some time since I last looked, but the lifetime of objects constructed in return statements was a moving target through several standards. The last standard I bothered looking at had the object survive until the statement with the function call expression ended: quite a strange synchronization point with regard to language design.

> In fact, other high level languages that use GC have much more
> unpredictable lifetime rules for objects.

Mostly objects are alive as long as you can refer to them. Not really complicated.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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  2. David KastrupSep 22, 2007
  3. Johannes SchindelinSep 22, 2007
  4. Marco CostalbaSep 22, 2007
  5. Dmitry KakurinSep 23, 2007
  6. Kyle RoseSep 22, 2007
  7. Miles BaderSep 22, 2007
  8. [OT] Re: C++ *for Git*Kyle Rose, Sep 22, 2007
  9. David KastrupSep 22, 2007
  10. Alex UnleashedSep 22, 2007
  11. Frank LichtenheldSep 23, 2007
  12. David BrownSep 23, 2007
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  29. Dmitry PotapovSep 23, 2007
  30. David KastrupSep 23, 2007
  31. Robin RosenbergSep 23, 2007
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  33. Dmitry PotapovSep 24, 2007
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