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Re: [OT] Re: C++ *for Git*

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David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Date
Sep 22, 2007, 19:11 UTC
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Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> writes:
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> Miles Bader wrote:
>> Of course, some of the most horrid unreadable source code I've ever seen
>> is in one of git's competitors -- written in python....
>
> Indeed. :-)
>
> At the office, people constantly badmouth Perl, which has some
> admittedly evil syntax (especially around exception handling).

Since Perl has agglomerated pretty much _every_ syntax, it is not surprising that evil syntax is included.

> C++ is in the same category as Perl IMO: too easy to produce
> unreadable code.

Not quite. Perl gives you a hundred illegible ways to _say_ the same thing, C++ gives you a hundred illegible ways to _achieve_ the same thing, but using different means.

> I like Ruby, except for the performance problems.  Once they have
> those worked out, Ruby will be "Perl done right." ;-)

Ruby again is in the "throw every syntactical idiom I can think of together" ballpark. I find that a design mistake in Perl, a design mistake in Ruby, and even in C++ (Ada syntax for templates was just stupid, but at least there is no alternative syntax for it).

That's one of the things I like about Lua: its syntax fits on one page in the reference manual. And the reference manual has a paper size of about A5. While the syntax for Lisp would probably fit in the margin, it does so at a cost in legibility.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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  2. David KastrupSep 22, 2007
  3. Johannes SchindelinSep 22, 2007
  4. Marco CostalbaSep 22, 2007
  5. Dmitry KakurinSep 23, 2007
  6. Kyle RoseSep 22, 2007
  7. Miles BaderSep 22, 2007
  8. [OT] Re: C++ *for Git*Kyle Rose, Sep 22, 2007
  9. David KastrupSep 22, 2007
  10. Alex UnleashedSep 22, 2007
  11. Frank LichtenheldSep 23, 2007
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