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Re: Minor annoyance with git push

From
Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Feb 10, 2008, 02:24 UTC
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"Martin Langhoff" <martin.langhoff@gmail.com> writes:
> Still, the big fat ![rejected] do seem over the top when I know it
> really means "stale".

If "stale" can be proven cheaply, I think it would be a very good change to introduce [rejected] vs [stale].

> And I don't completely follow how bad the impact of
> auto-fast-forwarding local tracking branches on a merge. If it's a
> fast-forward, my "local state" wasn't that exciting to begin with ;-)

If your branch is configured to track the remote and when your branch is behind, it probably is safe to assume that the user most likely wants the ff merge to happen _when_ the branch is checked out. I am with you that. I am not sure if that ff should happen when you fetch from the other side as you suggest.

Doing so automatically means it would break workflows of people who are deliberately _holding back_ from updating to the remote they are tracking for whatever reason. As you said, the point they were holding back at can be found as _one_ of the reflog entries even if you force the auto-ff upon fetch, but that does mean you are forcing them to go and look for it, while they used to be able to _rely on_ that their tips will not be molested without them telling git to do so explicitly.

So I am with you that auto-ff would help more people but I am not convinced it would not hurt anybody.

Perhaps making "git-checkout" to notice this and offer (or suggest) fast-forwarding at that point may be safer and make more sense. You cannot grow your local branch unless you check them out, and your remote tracking will keep growing without the auto-ff you are suggesting, so it is not like people will lose anchoring point to compare between branches if we do not auto-ff.

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Message 25 of 71 in “Minor annoyance with git push”
  1. Martin LanghoffFeb 8, 2008
  2. Martin LanghoffFeb 8, 2008
  3. Junio C HamanoFeb 8, 2008
  4. Steffen ProhaskaFeb 9, 2008
  5. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  6. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  7. Johannes SchindelinFeb 8, 2008
  8. Martin LanghoffFeb 8, 2008
  9. Mike HommeyFeb 8, 2008
  10. SeanFeb 8, 2008
  11. Steffen ProhaskaFeb 8, 2008
  12. Johannes SchindelinFeb 8, 2008
  13. Martin LanghoffFeb 8, 2008
  14. Johannes SchindelinFeb 8, 2008
  15. Jeff KingFeb 9, 2008
  16. Jeff KingFeb 9, 2008
  17. Johannes SchindelinFeb 9, 2008
  18. Jeff KingFeb 9, 2008
  19. Steffen ProhaskaFeb 9, 2008
  20. Jeff KingFeb 9, 2008
  21. Junio C HamanoFeb 9, 2008
  22. Jeff KingFeb 9, 2008
  23. Martin LanghoffFeb 9, 2008
  24. Johannes SchindelinFeb 9, 2008
  25. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  26. Jeff KingFeb 10, 2008
  27. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  28. [RFC] checkout to notice forks (Re: Minor annoyance with git push)Junio C Hamano, Feb 17, 2008
  29. Daniel BarkalowFeb 17, 2008
  30. Junio C HamanoFeb 17, 2008
  31. Daniel BarkalowFeb 17, 2008
  32. Junio C HamanoFeb 17, 2008
  33. Daniel BarkalowFeb 17, 2008
  34. Jeff KingFeb 17, 2008
  35. Santi BéjarFeb 20, 2008
  36. Martin LanghoffFeb 19, 2008
  37. checkout: tone down the "forked status" diagnostic messagesJunio C Hamano, Feb 20, 2008
  38. Jeff KingFeb 21, 2008
  39. checkout: updates to tracking reportJunio C Hamano, Feb 21, 2008
  40. Jay SoffianFeb 21, 2008
  41. Daniel BarkalowFeb 21, 2008
  42. Jay SoffianFeb 21, 2008
  43. Steffen ProhaskaFeb 9, 2008
  44. Johannes SchindelinFeb 9, 2008
  45. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  46. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  47. Jeff KingFeb 10, 2008
  48. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  49. Jeff KingFeb 10, 2008
  50. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  51. Jeff KingFeb 10, 2008
  52. Junio C HamanoFeb 20, 2008
  53. Johannes SchindelinFeb 20, 2008
  54. Jay SoffianFeb 20, 2008
  55. Johannes SchindelinFeb 20, 2008
  56. Steven WalterFeb 21, 2008
  57. Johannes SchindelinFeb 22, 2008
  58. Jeff KingFeb 20, 2008
  59. Junio C HamanoFeb 20, 2008
  60. Jeff KingFeb 20, 2008
  61. Jeff KingFeb 20, 2008
  62. Junio C HamanoFeb 20, 2008
  63. Jeff KingFeb 20, 2008
  64. Wincent ColaiutaFeb 10, 2008
  65. Steven WalterFeb 10, 2008
  66. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  67. Johannes SchindelinFeb 10, 2008
  68. Wincent ColaiutaFeb 10, 2008
  69. Jeff KingFeb 10, 2008
  70. Junio C HamanoFeb 10, 2008
  71. Jeff KingFeb 10, 2008

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