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Re: [PATCH] Switch receive.denyCurrentBranch to "refuse"

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Feb 1, 2009, 23:56 UTC
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Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de> writes:
> at the cost of annoying
>
> - a few oldtimers
> - now, instead of later

Nobody seems to have realized this, but suddenly changing the default to refuse without giving people enough advance warning to adjust will hurt not just the old-timers (a rough definition is people who are from the kernel circle and have been using git since summer of 2005), but people who picked up a recipe from various how-to web pages to push to a live repository and updating the checkout that is otherwise never touched by the humans with its post-update hook running "reset --hard". Old timers may be savvy enough to know what has changed and may be able to grudgingly react, but what is your plans for these recipe following kids?

How many times do I have to repeat that it is much worse to break a working setup of people without advance warning and sound transition guidance than having a known breakage that users can be trained to avoid?

And realize that I am not saying we need to keep the known breakage forever.

The only thing I am saying is that you need to have a smooth transition plan for changing the default, and a mechanism to guide people in place.

I'll ignore you if you keep repeating "all it takes is for old timers to flip a switch". Such an argument shows that you didn't learn a thing after the 1.6.0 fallout.

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  1. Switch receive.denyCurrentBranch to "refuse"Johannes Schindelin, Jan 30, 2009
  2. Jay SoffianJan 30, 2009
  3. Asheesh LaroiaJan 30, 2009
  4. Dave AbrahamsApr 13, 2010
  5. Junio C HamanoApr 13, 2010
  6. Miklos VajnaJan 30, 2009
  7. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009
  8. Miklos VajnaFeb 11, 2009
  9. Junio C HamanoFeb 11, 2009
  10. Jeff KingJan 30, 2009
  11. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009
  12. Johannes SixtJan 30, 2009
  13. Jeff KingJan 30, 2009
  14. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009
  15. Jeff KingJan 30, 2009
  16. Jay SoffianJan 30, 2009
  17. Jeff KingJan 30, 2009
  18. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009
  19. Jay SoffianJan 30, 2009
  20. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009
  21. Nanako ShiraishiJan 31, 2009
  22. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2009
  23. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2009
  24. Jeff KingFeb 2, 2009
  25. Junio C HamanoFeb 3, 2009
  26. Junio C HamanoFeb 3, 2009
  27. Jeff KingFeb 6, 2009
  28. Junio C HamanoFeb 7, 2009
  29. Junio C HamanoFeb 3, 2009
  30. Jeff KingFeb 3, 2009
  31. Junio C HamanoFeb 3, 2009
  32. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2009
  33. Sam VilainFeb 1, 2009
  34. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2009
  35. Sam VilainFeb 2, 2009
  36. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2009
  37. Sam VilainFeb 2, 2009
  38. Johannes SchindelinFeb 1, 2009
  39. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2009
  40. Junio C HamanoJan 30, 2009
  41. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009
  42. Jeff KingJan 30, 2009
  43. Johannes SchindelinJan 30, 2009

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