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Re: [PATCH 1/2] fetch: better alignment in ref summary

From
Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com>
Date
May 26, 2016, 22:13 UTC
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On 2016-05-26 03:31 PM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Marc Branchaud <marcnarc@xiplink.com> writes:
>
>> The fact that something is buried in some odd part of the ref tree is
>> less relevant, IMO.  If I'm using custom fetch refspecs or other
>> oddities, I'll have that in the back of my head.  But what I really
>> care about is what ref I can use with commands like log and checkout.
>>
>> So, regarding Peff's examples:
>>
>>> $ git fetch origin refs/pull/*/head:refs/remotes/pr/*
>>
>> Just show me the "pr/foo" refs.  I know where things are coming
>> from. Even if I configured that fetch refspec a long time ago, I don't
>> need to see the exact mapping every time I fetch.
>
> That is only because you are used to seeing them.  You cannot claim
> "I'll remember forever without seeing them" without actually
> experiencing not seeing them for a long time.

I don't expect (or even want) to forever remember the mapping. It's a matter of context.

When fetching, I'm interested in shiny new refs and I want to work with them.

When configuring a remote repository, I'm interested in how to bring that repo's refs into my own repository.

These are two distinct modes of thought, and I don't think fetch's output always needs to display the latter. Perhaps the --verbose switch could turn on showing how the remote refs get mapped. I can see how that would occasionally be useful for debugging fetch refspecs.

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>> I think the output should show the plain SHA values, since those are
>> the only things the user can use to work with those refs.
>
> When they tell others how to reproduce what they did (or record what
> they did so that they can reproduce it later), they need what it is
> called at the remote end.

Which is why I included the refnames in my proposal to Peff's second example. Really, the SHA and the remote's name for the SHA are the only meaningful things in this case.

> I would hesitate to go in the approach based on discarding
> information, as if it is the only way to shorten and clarify the
> output.  Let's not do so before thinking things through to achieve
> the same while keeping the information we give to the users.

I agree, this is not something to undertake lightly. But I've yet to be convinced of the utility of always showing the ref mapping during a fetch.

I actually found fetch's output quite confusing when I first started using git. It's really not obvious that the thing on the left of the "->" is the remote's local name, especially since to see what was fetched one has to use the thing on the right-hand side -- which is obviously in a remote-specific namespace. (Admittedly, this was before checkout learned to search refs/remotes/ for things to check out.)

		M.
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  1. 0/2 Better ref summary alignment in "git fetch"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, May 22, 2016
  2. 1/2 fetch: better alignment in ref summaryNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, May 22, 2016
  3. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2016
  4. Duy NguyenMay 23, 2016
  5. Marc BranchaudMay 26, 2016
  6. Jeff KingMay 26, 2016
  7. Junio C HamanoMay 26, 2016
  8. Marc BranchaudMay 26, 2016
  9. Junio C HamanoMay 26, 2016
  10. Marc BranchaudMay 26, 2016
  11. Jeff KingMay 26, 2016
  12. Duy NguyenJun 2, 2016
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 2, 2016
  14. 2/2 fetch: reduce ref column size when there are enough short ref namesNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, May 22, 2016
  15. 0/3 Better ref summary alignment in "git fetch"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 3, 2016
  16. 1/3 git-fetch.txt: document fetch outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 3, 2016
  17. Marc BranchaudJun 3, 2016
  18. Jeff KingJun 3, 2016
  19. 2/3 fetch: refactor ref update status formatting codeNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 3, 2016
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2016
  21. 3/3 fetch: reduce duplicate in ref update status linesNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 3, 2016
  22. Marc BranchaudJun 3, 2016
  23. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2016
  24. Marc BranchaudJun 3, 2016
  25. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2016
  26. Duy NguyenJun 4, 2016
  27. Duy NguyenJun 4, 2016
  28. Junio C HamanoJun 4, 2016
  29. Duy NguyenJun 5, 2016
  30. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2016
  31. Duy NguyenJun 3, 2016
  32. Jeff KingJun 3, 2016
  33. Duy NguyenJun 3, 2016
  34. Junio C HamanoJun 4, 2016
  35. Jeff KingJun 3, 2016
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2016
  37. 0/6 Better ref summary alignment in "git fetch"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  38. 1/6 git-fetch.txt: document fetch outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  39. Marc BranchaudJun 6, 2016
  40. 2/6 fetch: refactor ref update status formatting codeNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  41. 3/6 fetch: change flag code for displaying tag update and deleted refNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  42. 4/6 fetch: align all "remote -> local" outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  43. 5/6 fetch: reduce duplicate in ref update status lines with { -> }Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  44. 6/6 fetch: reduce duplicate in ref update status lines with placeholderNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 5, 2016
  45. 0/5 Better ref summary alignment in "git fetch"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 26, 2016
  46. 1/5 git-fetch.txt: document fetch outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 26, 2016
  47. Jakub NarębskiJul 4, 2016
  48. Duy NguyenJul 4, 2016
  49. Jakub NarębskiJul 4, 2016
  50. Duy NguyenJul 4, 2016
  51. 2/5 fetch: refactor ref update status formatting codeNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 26, 2016
  52. 3/5 fetch: change flag code for displaying tag update and deleted refNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 26, 2016
  53. 4/5 fetch: align all "remote -> local" outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 26, 2016
  54. 5/5 fetch: reduce duplicate in ref update status lines with placeholderNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jun 26, 2016
  55. Eric SunshineJun 27, 2016
  56. Duy NguyenJun 27, 2016
  57. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2016
  58. Jeff KingJun 27, 2016
  59. Duy NguyenJun 27, 2016
  60. Duy NguyenJun 30, 2016
  61. Jeff KingJul 1, 2016
  62. 0/5 Better ref summary alignment in "git fetch"Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jul 1, 2016
  63. 1/5 git-fetch.txt: document fetch outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jul 1, 2016
  64. 2/5 fetch: refactor ref update status formatting codeNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jul 1, 2016
  65. 5/5 fetch: reduce duplicate in ref update status lines with placeholderNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jul 1, 2016
  66. 3/5 fetch: change flag code for displaying tag update and deleted refNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jul 1, 2016
  67. 4/5 fetch: align all "remote -> local" outputNguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy, Jul 1, 2016
  68. Junio C HamanoJul 1, 2016
  69. Duy NguyenJul 2, 2016
  70. Marc BranchaudJul 4, 2016
  71. Duy NguyenJul 4, 2016

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