git/list[1] front-page[2] threads[3] people[4] search[5] about
 

Re: What is missing from Git v2.0

From
Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Date
Apr 22, 2014, 05:10 UTC
Message-ID
<5355f9c16b665_15b012f3310d5@nysa.notmuch>
In-Reply-To
<20140422021256.GC86681@vauxhall.crustytoothpaste.net>
brian m. carlson wrote:
Show 14 quoted lines
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 09:24:33PM +0200, Sebastian Schuberth wrote:
> > BTW, in my experience people tend to stick to predefined aliases instead of
> > redefining them to something (completely) different. This means that having
> > default aliases will very likely enable one to use the same short commands
> > on one's colleague's PC (instead of you running into issues because the same
> > alias was defined to a different command).
> > 
> > If we don't standardize this now people will come up with their own
> > definitions [1] [2] (and many others if you just search GitHub) which are
> > again likely to differ (slightly), hindering interoperability.
> 
> Unfortunately, that's already happened.  Some people alias ci to commit,
> and some people alias it to commit -a.  There is literally no choice you
> can make there that will make everyone happy.

Of course we can: a) The people that have 'alias.co = git commit' will keep their alias b) The people that have 'alias.co = git commit -a' will keep their alias c) The people that haven't set alias.co, will get the default

> If you provide default aliases, people will expect them to work
> everywhere, and then be confused when they don't.
This argument was already brought up, and already proved to be false.

Mercurial allows not only to override the default alias, but to override the core commands, so you can alias 'hg push' to 'hg push --force'. According to your hypothesis people using Mercurial would get confused when basic commands work on certain machines and not others. This is not the case. I challenge you to find a single instance when people got confused because of the configured aliases.

> It's much better to let people alias what they want on their own.  I
> understand the frustration of having to work on others' machines when they
> don't have your aliases, because every time I type "git pff"[0] and it fails,
> it drives me crazy, but there's just no sane defaults.
Yes there are sane defaults.
  co = checkout
  ci = commit
  rb = rebase
  st = status
  br = branch
  dt = difftool
  mt = mergetool
-- 
Felipe Contreras
Previous: brian m. carlsonNext: David Aguilar
Message 75 of 77 in “What is missing from Git v2.0”
  1. Felipe ContrerasApr 20, 2014
  2. Felipe ContrerasApr 20, 2014
  3. Sebastian SchuberthApr 21, 2014
  4. Felipe ContrerasApr 21, 2014
  5. Sebastian SchuberthApr 21, 2014
  6. Theodore Ts'oApr 21, 2014
  7. Felipe ContrerasApr 21, 2014
  8. Sebastian SchuberthApr 22, 2014
  9. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014
  10. Junio C HamanoApr 21, 2014
  11. Sebastian SchuberthApr 22, 2014
  12. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014
  13. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2014
  14. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014
  15. Matthieu MoyApr 22, 2014
  16. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014
  17. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2014
  18. Theodore Ts'oApr 22, 2014
  19. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014
  20. David KastrupApr 22, 2014
  21. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  22. David KastrupApr 24, 2014
  23. Andreas KreyApr 24, 2014
  24. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  25. David KastrupApr 24, 2014
  26. David LangApr 22, 2014
  27. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  28. David LangApr 24, 2014
  29. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  30. James DenholmApr 24, 2014
  31. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  32. James DenholmApr 24, 2014
  33. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  34. David KastrupApr 24, 2014
  35. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  36. David KastrupApr 24, 2014
  37. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  38. David LangApr 24, 2014
  39. Theodore Ts'oApr 24, 2014
  40. Stefan BellerApr 24, 2014
  41. tytso@mit.eduApr 24, 2014
  42. Stefan BellerApr 24, 2014
  43. Jonathan NiederApr 24, 2014
  44. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  45. Jeff KingApr 24, 2014
  46. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  47. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  48. Matthieu MoyApr 25, 2014
  49. Philippe VaucherApr 25, 2014
  50. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  51. luc.linux@mailoo.orgApr 24, 2014
  52. Javier Domingo CansinoApr 25, 2014
  53. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  54. Philippe VaucherApr 25, 2014
  55. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  56. Theodore Ts'oApr 25, 2014
  57. Philippe VaucherApr 25, 2014
  58. Theodore Ts'oApr 25, 2014
  59. Philippe VaucherApr 25, 2014
  60. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  61. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  62. Jeff KingApr 25, 2014
  63. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  64. Jeff KingApr 25, 2014
  65. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  66. Jeff KingApr 25, 2014
  67. Felipe ContrerasApr 25, 2014
  68. David KastrupApr 25, 2014
  69. Jonathan NiederApr 25, 2014
  70. David KastrupApr 25, 2014
  71. Jonathan NiederApr 25, 2014
  72. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2014
  73. Felipe ContrerasApr 24, 2014
  74. brian m. carlsonApr 22, 2014
  75. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014
  76. David AguilarApr 22, 2014
  77. Felipe ContrerasApr 22, 2014

Read the whole thread, see it on lore, or plain text.

$ cat FOOTERMessages come from the public archive at lore.kernel.org/git, fetched every hour. The front page is chosen and written each morning by an AI editor and can be wrong; the threads themselves are the record. About and API. For agents: an MCP server at https://gitlist.dev/mcp, and any thread, story or person page as Markdown by adding .md to its URL (or sending Accept: text/markdown). Details in /llms.txt.