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Re: disallowing push to currently checked-out branch

From
Sergio Callegari <sergio.callegari@gmail.com>
Date
Feb 16, 2009, 19:24 UTC
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Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> Wrong.  It cries out loud when you detach, not when you commit to a 
> detached HEAD.  For good reason: Already at the second commit it would 
> stop being funny.
>   

Right, I was wrong in expecting complaints. But... if it cried out at the first commit, for many people there would probably not be a second. Btw, I am ignorant on this: is there some case where one wants and has reasons to commit to a detached head before making a temporary branch on it?

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>   
>> Furthermore, one could do just a bit more than detaching, namely store 
>> the fact that head got detached and the name of the branch where the 
>> head was. With this, when the unconscious user types git status or git 
>> commit the system could alert him that head got detached because someone 
>> updated the branch behind his shoulders from remote...
>>     
>
> And of course, you need a way to show the user all the updates the branch 
> went through while the HEAD was detached, so that the user has a chance of 
> understanding what happened in the meantime.
>   
> So much additional work, just to fix up the shortcomings of the 'detach' 
> paradigm?  I take it as a clear mark of a not-so-elegant design.
>   
Well not that much additional work...

when you push to the checked out branch, head gets detached and branch name (say /ref/heads/master) gets stored (say in .git/pre_push_branch). when you run status or commit, you realize that there is a pre_push_branch and you give the warning, saying what the pre_push_branch was. Now, since before the push you were at the tip of that branch, to know what happened it should be enough to ask the log (or the diff) from pre_push_branch to HEAD. At the first user command that moves HEAD, pre_push_branch should get deleted. Btw, what does happen now if you delete the branch the remote worktree is on? Don't you get a "dangling" head pointing to a non-existing branch and the system claiming that it is at the initial commit? Maybe, this too is a bit inelegant. In the other scenario, you would get a detached head and in pre_push_branch the info the name of a no more existing branch (mainig clear that you were on a branch that got deleted) and this info could be returned to the user.

Of course, I am not claiming that forbidding pushes to branches with checked out tree is bad. It is a good idea in my opinion. I am just suggesting that one still wanting to allow that push in spite of all the potential consequences (namely wanting to mess with the relevant config variable), might prefer detaching head, storing the pre_push_branch and getting some info on status and commit rather than merely allowing the push.

In fact, I believe that the point is that with the current push-allowing behavior, when the push happens you loose the information about the precise commit against which the changes in the worktree were made. Which might be a useful piece of info.

Ciao,
Sergio
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  25. PUSH_HEAD, was Re: disallowing push to currently checked-out branchJohannes Schindelin, Feb 17, 2009
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