git/list[1] front-page[2] threads[3] people[4] search[5] about
 

Re: [PATCH 00/15] Refactor chunk-format into an API

From
René Scharfe <l.s.r@web.de>
Date
Dec 9, 2020, 17:13 UTC
Message-ID
<4696bd93-9406-0abd-25ec-a739665a24d5@web.de>
In-Reply-To
<X8/K1dUgUmwp8ZOv@nand.local>
Am 08.12.20 um 19:49 schrieb Taylor Blau:
Show 6 quoted lines
> So, I think that we should pursues that direction a little further
> before deciding whether or not this is worth continuing. My early
> experiments showed that it does add a little more code to the
> chunk-format.{c,h} files, but you get negative diffs in midx.c and
> commit-graph.c, which is more in line with what I would expect from this
> series.
OK.
Show 6 quoted lines
> I do think that the "overhead" here is more tolerable than we might
> think; I'd rather have a well-documented "chunkfile" implementation
> written once and called twice, than two near-identical implementations
> of _writing_ the chunks / table of contents at each of the call sites.
> So, even if this does end up being a net-lines-added kind of diff, I'd
> still say that it's worth it.

Well, interfaces are hard, and having two similar-but-not-quite-equal pieces of code instead of a central API implementation trying to serve two callers can actually be better.

I'm not too familiar with the chunk producers and consumers, so I can only offer some high-level observations. And I don't have to use the API, so go wild! ;) I was just triggered by the appearance of two working pieces of code being replaced by two slightly different pieces of code plus a third one on top.

Show 7 quoted lines
> With regards to the "YAGNI" comment... I do have thoughts about
> extending the reachability bitmap format to use chunks (of course, this
> would break compatibility with JGit, and it isn't something that I plan
> to do in the short-term, or even necessarily in the future).
>
> In any event, I'm sure that this won't be these two won't be the last
> chunk-based formats that we have in Git.

OK, so perhaps we can do better before this scheme is copied. The write side is complicated by the fact that the table of contents (TOC) is written first, followed by the actual chunks. That requires two passes over the data.

The ZIP format solved a similar issue by placing the TOC at the end, which allows for one-pass streaming. Another way to achieve that would be to put the TOC in a separate file, like we do for .pack and .idx files. This way you could have a single write function for chunks, and writers would just be a single sequence of calls for the different types.

But seeing that the read side just loads all of the chunks anyway (skipping unknown IDs) I wonder why we need a TOC at all. That would only be useful if callers were trying to read just some small subset of the whole file. A collection of chunks for easy dumping and loading could be serialized by writing just a small header for each chunk containing its type and size followed by its payload.

René
Previous: Taylor BlauNext: Taylor Blau
Message 38 of 40 in “Refactor chunk-format into an API”
  1. 00/15 Refactor chunk-format into an APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  2. 02/15 chunk-format: add API for writing table of contentsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  3. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2020
  4. 01/15 commit-graph: anonymize data in chunk_write_fnDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  5. 04/15 midx: use context in write_midx_pack_names()Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  6. 03/15 midx: rename pack_info to write_midx_contextDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  7. 05/15 midx: add entries to write_midx_contextDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  8. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2020
  9. Derrick StoleeDec 4, 2020
  10. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2020
  11. 07/15 midx: add num_large_offsets to write_midx_contextDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  12. 06/15 midx: add pack_perm to write_midx_contextDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  13. 09/15 midx: drop chunk progress during writeDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  14. 08/15 midx: convert chunk write methods to return intDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  15. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2020
  16. Derrick StoleeDec 4, 2020
  17. 11/15 midx: use 64-bit multiplication for chunk sizesDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  18. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2020
  19. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2020
  20. 12/15 chunk-format: create write_chunks()Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  21. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2020
  22. 13/15 chunk-format: create chunk reading APIDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2020
  24. Derrick StoleeDec 4, 2020
  25. Junio C HamanoDec 4, 2020
  26. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2020
  27. Derrick StoleeDec 4, 2020
  28. 15/15 chunk-format: add technical docsDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  29. 14/15 commit-graph: restore duplicate chunk checksDerrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  30. Derrick StoleeDec 7, 2020
  31. 10/15 midx: use chunk-format API in write_midx_internal()Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget, Dec 3, 2020
  32. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2020
  33. Derrick StoleeDec 10, 2020
  34. René ScharfeDec 4, 2020
  35. Derrick StoleeDec 4, 2020
  36. Junio C HamanoDec 4, 2020
  37. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2020
  38. René ScharfeDec 9, 2020
  39. Taylor BlauDec 10, 2020
  40. Derrick StoleeDec 10, 2020

Read the whole thread, see it on lore, or plain text.

$ cat FOOTERMessages come from the public archive at lore.kernel.org/git, fetched every hour. The front page is chosen and written each morning by an AI editor and can be wrong; the threads themselves are the record. About and API. For agents: an MCP server at https://gitlist.dev/mcp, and any thread, story or person page as Markdown by adding .md to its URL (or sending Accept: text/markdown). Details in /llms.txt.