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ssize_t portability (was: [PATCH 4/6] builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a ref)

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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
Date
Mar 18, 2022, 13:41 UTC
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On Mon, Mar 14 2022, Phillip Wood wrote:
> Hi Brian and Ævar
> [...]

Hi, sorry about the late reply, just on this point (which I see is stil unaddressed), and changing $subject for the generic question:

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>>> +	for (ssize_t i = nitems - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
>> The ssize_t type can be really small (it's not a signed size_t), so
>> this
>> is unportable, but in practice maybe it's OK...
>
> I'm not really convinced by this ssize_t can be small argument[2], do
> you know of any platforms where it is true?

Where we'd overflow in this code as written? Yes, every platform we build on, since e.g. on Linux it's got half the unsigned size of SIZE_MAX, on my 64 bit box:

    SIZE_MAX  = 18446744073709551615
    SSIZE_MAX = 9223372036854775807

Of course exceeding 2^63-1 or even 2^31-1 number of stashes seems unlikely in practice.

If you meant are there platforms where ssize_t is as small as you can pedintically make it, i.e. not just half the signed range of size_t, but something much smaller?

Possibly, but I think that's unlikely in practice given the homogenization in computing. Even C just mandated 2's compliment!

Although I think it's still imporant to understand that in the specific case of ssize_t, unlike other "signed version of type X" the *intent* of the standard is clearly to *not* mandate that it's a signed version of size_t. I.e. it's intended for functions like:

     ssize_t read(int fildes, void *buf, size_t nbyte);

Which both per the standard and in practice might have limits that are much smaller than their respective types. E.g. on my Linux box read(2) says:

    On Linux, read() (and similar system calls) will transfer at most
    0x7ffff000 (2,147,479,552) bytes, returning the number of bytes
    actually transferred.  (This is true on both 32-bit and 64-bit
    systems.)

I can see how *some* platform might take those liberties in practice. I.e. 1/2 of your addressable memory/offset != number of bytes you'd want to return or consider at once for I/O purposes.

But in any case, we do have existing unportable code in-tree, but generally with C it's good practice to avoid unportable code if it's easy, you never know what platform will be released tomorrow that you might have to scramble to support.

As I noted in this and other similar cases it's trivial to just use size_t here. It's just a matter of changing (leaving the C99-specifics here aside):

	for (i = nitems - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
		item = ary[i];
                [...];

To, as I did in 99d60545f87 (string-list API: change "nr" and "alloc" to "size_t", 2022-03-07):

	for (i = nitems; i >= 1; i--) {
		item = ary[i - 1];
                [...];
Or even, if repeating "i - 1" is tedious:
	for (cnt = nitems; cnt >= 1; cnt--) {
		size_t i = cnt - 1;
		item = ary[i];
                [...];

Portability concerns aside I think such code is much clearer and easier to reason about, since you no longer have to carefully squint to see if we're doing the right thing with the two types in play.

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  2. 2/6 builtin/stash: fill in all commit databrian m. carlson, Mar 10, 2022
  3. Junio C HamanoMar 16, 2022
  4. 1/6 builtin/stash: factor out generic function to look up stash infobrian m. carlson, Mar 10, 2022
  5. 3/6 object-name: make get_oid quietly return an errorbrian m. carlson, Mar 10, 2022
  6. Junio C HamanoMar 16, 2022
  7. Drew StoleeMar 16, 2022
  8. brian m. carlsonMar 16, 2022
  9. 4/6 builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a refbrian m. carlson, Mar 10, 2022
  10. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 11, 2022
  11. Phillip WoodMar 14, 2022
  12. Phillip WoodMar 15, 2022
  13. brian m. carlsonMar 16, 2022
  14. C99 %zu support (on MSVC) (was: [PATCH 4/6] builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a ref)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Mar 18, 2022
  15. Phillip WoodMar 18, 2022
  16. Johannes SchindelinMar 24, 2022
  17. ssize_t portability (was: [PATCH 4/6] builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a ref)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Mar 18, 2022
  18. Junio C HamanoMar 16, 2022
  19. 6/6 doc: add stash export and import to docsbrian m. carlson, Mar 10, 2022
  20. Junio C HamanoMar 16, 2022
  21. Junio C HamanoMar 16, 2022
  22. 5/6 builtin/stash: provide a way to import stashes from a refbrian m. carlson, Mar 10, 2022
  23. Junio C HamanoMar 16, 2022
  24. brian m. carlsonMar 16, 2022
  25. Junio C HamanoMar 10, 2022
  26. brian m. carlsonMar 10, 2022
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  28. brian m. carlsonMar 10, 2022
  29. 0/4 Importing and exporting stashes to refsbrian m. carlson, Mar 29, 2022
  30. 2/4 builtin/stash: factor out revision parsing into a functionbrian m. carlson, Mar 29, 2022
  31. 1/4 object-name: make get_oid quietly return an errorbrian m. carlson, Mar 29, 2022
  32. 4/4 builtin/stash: provide a way to import stashes from a refbrian m. carlson, Mar 29, 2022
  33. 3/4 builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a refbrian m. carlson, Mar 29, 2022
  34. Junio C HamanoMar 30, 2022
  35. brian m. carlsonMar 30, 2022
  36. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 31, 2022
  37. Junio C HamanoMar 31, 2022
  38. brian m. carlsonApr 5, 2022
  39. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 6, 2022
  40. Junio C HamanoApr 6, 2022
  41. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 31, 2022
  42. brian m. carlsonApr 5, 2022
  43. Junio C HamanoMar 31, 2022
  44. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMar 31, 2022
  45. 0/4 Importing and exporting stashes to refsbrian m. carlson, Apr 3, 2022
  46. 1/4 object-name: make get_oid quietly return an errorbrian m. carlson, Apr 3, 2022
  47. 2/4 builtin/stash: factor out revision parsing into a functionbrian m. carlson, Apr 3, 2022
  48. Phillip WoodApr 4, 2022
  49. 4/4 builtin/stash: provide a way to import stashes from a refbrian m. carlson, Apr 3, 2022
  50. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 4, 2022
  51. brian m. carlsonApr 5, 2022
  52. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 6, 2022
  53. 3/4 builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a refbrian m. carlson, Apr 3, 2022
  54. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 4, 2022
  55. Junio C HamanoApr 4, 2022
  56. Junio C HamanoApr 4, 2022
  57. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 4, 2022
  58. brian m. carlsonApr 5, 2022
  59. 0/4 Importing and exporting stashes to refsbrian m. carlson, Apr 7, 2022
  60. 3/4 builtin/stash: provide a way to export stashes to a refbrian m. carlson, Apr 7, 2022
  61. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 13, 2022
  62. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 13, 2022
  63. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 13, 2022
  64. 2/4 builtin/stash: factor out revision parsing into a functionbrian m. carlson, Apr 7, 2022
  65. 1/4 object-name: make get_oid quietly return an errorbrian m. carlson, Apr 7, 2022
  66. 4/4 builtin/stash: provide a way to import stashes from a refbrian m. carlson, Apr 7, 2022
  67. Jonathan TanApr 12, 2022
  68. brian m. carlsonApr 13, 2022
  69. Jonathan TanApr 13, 2022
  70. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 13, 2022
  71. Jonathan TanApr 13, 2022
  72. Junio C HamanoApr 13, 2022
  73. brian m. carlsonApr 13, 2022
  74. Junio C HamanoApr 13, 2022
  75. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonApr 13, 2022
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