Re: [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc)
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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com>
- Date
- Oct 22, 2021, 22:06 UTC
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- <211023.861r4ck8jw.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com>
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- <20211021134105.ziqmcknnpdsg6cvc@meerkat.local>
On Thu, Oct 21 2021, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 01:57:11PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote: >> 2. Dscho said he’s not able to follow everything on the mailing list >> >> 1. if you have just one patch you send, reply-all works okay >> >> 2. mailing list works reasonably well if you’re someone like Junio, working >> on it full time, has good mail filters, keeps up to date with everything >> >> 3. If you’re in-between, does not work well > > This is a problem that's not actually unique to mailing lists. If you have any > project that is popular enough, at some point it reaches critical mass where > developer/user feedback becomes too much for anyone to keep up. Github > projects aren't immune to this either, but they do have a benefit of providing > an easy interface for someone to apply categorization to issues/discussions.
I'd like to use this mail as a good jump-off point to link to my "how" v.s. "what" E-Mail from when this was last discussed. I think I mentioned it in passing at the recent summit:
https://lore.kernel.org/git/87fszd3xo0.fsf@evledraar.gmail.com/
Especially as...
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>> 13. Junio: Not really. The extra tracking conversations are not as >> important to me. I think it’s a feature that if someone requests a >> feature and nothing happens for a while that it no longer produces >> overhead for people is a useful feature. That kind of old filtering >> feature is sometimes valuable. > > I find that if there's no mailing list integration, then bugzilla generally > rots after the initial person getting the bug reports moves on. Then bugs > reported via bugzilla just sit there without anyone paying attention. At least > when bug reports get sent to the list, the ensuing discussions get reflected > in both the list archives and in bugzilla.
...it makes a passive mention to this "forgetting as a feature" aspect of not having a bug tracker.
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> >> 16. I’m also happy to work with kernel.org admins to get this set up for us >> if that’s what we want > > Consider this part done. :)
And thank you for your contribution to kernel.org infrastructure.