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Re: Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20

From
Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Oct 22, 2021, 09:07 UTC
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<nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2110221028090.62@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>
Team,

after 10 failed attempts to send more notes, this might start to get a bit annoying on my side.

On Fri, 22 Oct 2021, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> On Fri, 22 Oct 2021, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 22 Oct 2021, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> > >
> > > > * Let's have public Git chalk talks
> > >
> > > You might wonder why I did not send out the notes for this talk.
> > >
> > > But that is not true! I sent it 6 times already, in various variations,
> > > and it never came through (but I did get two nastygrams telling me that my
> > > message was rejected because it apparently triggered a filter).
> >
> > This session was led by Emily Shaffer. Supporting cast: Ævar Arnfjörð
> > Bjarmason, brian m. carlson, CB Bailey, and Junio Hamano.
> >
> > Notes:
> >
> >  1.  What’s a public chalk talk?
> >
> >      1.  At Google, once a week, the team meets up with no particular topic in
> >          mind, or a couple topics, very informal
> >
> >      2.  One person’s turn each week to give an informal talk with a white
> >          board (not using chalk)
> >
> >      3.  Topic should be technical and of interest to the presenter
> >
> >      4.  For example: how does protocol v2 work
> >
> >      5.  Collaborative, interactive user session
> >
> >      6.  Helps by learning about things
> >
> >      7.  Helps by honing skills like presentation skills
> >
> >      8.  A lot of (good) humility involved. For example, colleagues who have
> >          been familiar with the project for a long time admitting they don’t
> >          know, or have been wrong about things. Makes others feel more
> >          comfortable with their perceived lack of knowledge
> >
> >      9.  Could be good for everybody on the Git mailing list, might foster less
> >          combative communication on the list
> >
> >      10. Might be a way to attract new people by presenting “old timers” as
> >          humble
> >
> >  2.  Does that appeal to anybody else?
>
> [redacting a word I suspect to have triggered vger's filter: it is a word
> starting with "T" and continuing with "witch". Whenever you read "[itch]",
> that's what I substitued for the culprit]
>
>  3.  Ævar: I think it would be great, has been a long time we’ve seen each
>      other, and already feels different
>
>  4.  One thing to keep in mind: it’s hard to program on a white board :-)
>
>  5.  Emily: some challenges:
>
>      1. How often?
>
>      2. What time?
>
>      3. Probably move things around (because we’re global)
>
>      4. Tech to use? Jitsi? [itch]? ([itch] seems to be particularly popular to
>         teach programming)
>
>      5. Figure out what topics to present
>
>  6.  Ævar: does not matter what tech to use
>
>  7.  Emily: some difference may make it matter: on [itch], you can record, and
>      they host recordings
>
>  8.  One thing to worry about recording: people might be reticent to make
>      public mistakes
>
>  9.  It’s possible to do a [itch] stream, and not record it

The brian m. carlson offered the idea to be considerate of reservations by participants, but also accommodate Git contributors who would have loved to see the presentation but were unable to attend due to timezones, time conflicts, etc: offer it for viewing only for a short while.

to be continued
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> > >
> > > I shall keep trying, but my hopes are pretty low by now.
> > >
> > > Ciao,
> > > Johannes
> > >
> > > > * Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc)
> > > > * Improving Git UX
> > > > * Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc)
> > > >
> > > > A few topics were left for a later date (maybe as public Git chalk talks):
> > > >
> > > > * Making Git memory-leak free (already landed patches)
> > > > * Scaling Git
> > > > * Scaling ref advertisements
> > > > * Config-based hooks (and getting there via migration ot hook.[ch] lib &
> > > >   "git hook run")
> > > > * Make git [clone|fetch] support pre-seeding via downloaded *.bundle files
> > > >
> > > > Ciao,
> > > > Johannes
> > > >
> > >
>
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Message 56 of 58 in “Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20”
  1. Johannes SchindelinOct 21, 2021
  2. [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideasJohannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  3. Son Luong NgocOct 21, 2021
  4. scripting speedups [was: [Summit topic] Crazy (and not so crazy) ideas]Eric Wong, Oct 26, 2021
  5. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 30, 2021
  6. test suite speedups via some not-so-crazy ideas (was: scripting speedups[...])Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 3, 2021
  7. Junio C HamanoNov 3, 2021
  8. Johannes SchindelinNov 2, 2021
  9. [Summit topic] SHA-256 UpdatesJohannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  10. [Summit topic] Server-side merge/rebase: needs and wants?Johannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  11. Bagas SanjayaOct 22, 2021
  12. Johannes SchindelinOct 22, 2021
  13. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 23, 2021
  14. Taylor BlauNov 8, 2021
  15. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 9, 2021
  16. Christian CouderNov 30, 2021
  17. [Summit topic] Submodules and how to make them worth usingJohannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  18. [Summit topic] Sparse checkout behavior and plansJohannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  19. [Summit topic] The state of getting a reftable backend working in git.gitJohannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  20. Han-Wen NienhuysOct 25, 2021
  21. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 25, 2021
  22. Han-Wen NienhuysOct 26, 2021
  23. Philip OakleyOct 28, 2021
  24. Philip OakleyOct 26, 2021
  25. [Summit topic] Documentation (translations, FAQ updates, new user-focused, general improvements, etc.)Johannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  26. Jean-Noël AvilaOct 22, 2021
  27. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 22, 2021
  28. Jean-Noël AvilaOct 27, 2021
  29. Jeff KingOct 27, 2021
  30. [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc)Johannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  31. Son Luong NgocOct 21, 2021
  32. vale check, was Re: [Summit topic] Increasing diversity & inclusion (transition to `main`, etc)Johannes Schindelin, Oct 22, 2021
  33. Johannes SchindelinOct 22, 2021
  34. [Summit topic] Improving Git UXJohannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  35. changing the experimental 'git switch' (was: [Summit topic] Improving Git UX)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Oct 21, 2021
  36. Junio C HamanoOct 21, 2021
  37. Bagas SanjayaOct 22, 2021
  38. martinOct 22, 2021
  39. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 22, 2021
  40. Sergey OrganovOct 22, 2021
  41. martinOct 22, 2021
  42. Sergey OrganovOct 23, 2021
  43. MartinOct 24, 2021
  44. Junio C HamanoOct 24, 2021
  45. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 25, 2021
  46. Junio C HamanoOct 25, 2021
  47. Sergey OrganovOct 25, 2021
  48. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 25, 2021
  49. Sergey OrganovOct 27, 2021
  50. [Summit topic] Improving reviewer quality of life (patchwork, subsystem lists?, etc)Johannes Schindelin, Oct 21, 2021
  51. Konstantin RyabitsevOct 21, 2021
  52. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 22, 2021
  53. Missing notes, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20Johannes Schindelin, Oct 22, 2021
  54. Johannes SchindelinOct 22, 2021
  55. Johannes SchindelinOct 22, 2021
  56. Johannes SchindelinOct 22, 2021
  57. Let's have public Git chalk talks, was Re: Notes from the Git Contributors' Summit 2021, virtual, Oct 19/20Johannes Schindelin, Oct 22, 2021
  58. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonOct 25, 2021

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