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Re: [PATCH 1/2] color: downgrade "always" to "auto" only for on-disk configuration

From
Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Oct 13, 2017, 13:06 UTC
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<20171013130638.dgc6kawy5mvrbasz@sigill.intra.peff.net>
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On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 12:37:57PM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:
> 
> > OK. For the record, I'm not against scrapping this whole thing and
> > trying to rollback to your "plumbing never looks at color.ui" proposal.
> > It's quite late in the -rc cycle to do that, but there's nothing that
> > says we can't bump the release date if that's what we need to do to get
> > it right.
> 
> I think that it is too late, regardless of our release cycle.
> 
> "Plumbing never looks at color.ui" implies that "plumbing must not
> get color.ui=auto from 4c7f1819", but given that 4c7f1819 is from
> 2013, I'd be surprised if we stopped coloring output from plumbing
> without getting any complaints from third-party script writers.

I agree that 4c7f1819 is the root of things. But there also weren't a lot of people complaining about it. I only noticed it as part of other work I was doing, and (perhaps foolishly) tried to clean it up.

All of the regressions people have actually _noticed_ stem from my 136c8c8b8f in v2.14.2. So I think it is a viable option to try to go back to the pre-v2.14.2 state. I.e.:

  1. Revert my 20120618c1 (color: downgrade "always" to "auto" only for
     on-disk configuration, 2017-10-10) and the test changes that came
     with it.
  2. Teach for-each-ref and tag to use git_color_default_config(). These
     are the two I _know_ need this treatment as part of the series that
     contained 136c8c8b8f. As you've noted there may be others, but I'd
     be surprised if there are many. There hasn't been a lot of color
     work in the last few months besides what I've done.
  3. Revert 136c8c8b8f.

That takes us back to the pre-regression state. The ancient bug from 4c7f1819 still exists, but that would be OK for v2.15. We'd probably want to bump the -rc cycle a bit to give more confidence that (2) caught everything.

Post-release, we would either:
  a. Do nothing. As far as we know, nobody has cared deeply about
     4c7f1819 for the past 4 years.
  b. Teach git_default_config() to respect "never" but not "always", so
     that you can disable the auto-color in the plumbing (but not shoot
     yourself in the foot).
  c. Go all-out and remove the "auto" behavior from plumbing. This is
     much more likely to have fallouts since we've had 4 years of the
     wrong behavior. But we'd have a whole cycle to identify
     regressions.

I'd probably vote for (b), followed by (a). Option (c) seems like a lot of risk for little benefit.

But we could punt on that part until after the release. The only thing we'd need to decide on now is that first set of reversions. What I really _don't_ want to do is ship v2.15 with "always works like auto" and then flip that back in v2.16.

I know you're probably infuriated with me because I'm essentially arguing the opposite of what I did earlier in the cycle. And I really am OK with going either way (shipping what's in -rc1 plus the "let 'always' work from the command line", or doing something like what I outlined above). But you've convinced me that the road I was going down really is piling up the hacks, and I want to make it clear that I'm not married to following the path I outlined earlier, and that I think there _is_ a viable alternative.

-Peff
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Message 29 of 42 in “What happened to "git status --color=(always|auto|never)"?”
  1. Nazri RamliyOct 9, 2017
  2. Jonathan NiederOct 10, 2017
  3. Nazri RamliyOct 10, 2017
  4. Jonathan NiederOct 10, 2017
  5. Nazri RamliyOct 10, 2017
  6. Jeff KingOct 10, 2017
  7. Junio C HamanoOct 10, 2017
  8. Jeff KingOct 10, 2017
  9. Jonathan NiederOct 10, 2017
  10. Jeff KingOct 10, 2017
  11. Junio C HamanoOct 11, 2017
  12. 0/2 Piling more kludge on top of color.uiJunio C Hamano, Oct 12, 2017
  13. 2/2 color: discourage use of ui.color=alwaysJunio C Hamano, Oct 12, 2017
  14. Jonathan NiederOct 12, 2017
  15. Jeff KingOct 12, 2017
  16. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2017
  17. 1/2 color: downgrade "always" to "auto" only for on-disk configurationJunio C Hamano, Oct 12, 2017
  18. Jonathan NiederOct 12, 2017
  19. Junio C HamanoOct 12, 2017
  20. Jonathan NiederOct 12, 2017
  21. Junio C HamanoOct 12, 2017
  22. Junio C HamanoOct 12, 2017
  23. Jeff KingOct 12, 2017
  24. Jeff KingOct 12, 2017
  25. Jeff KingOct 12, 2017
  26. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2017
  27. Jeff KingOct 13, 2017
  28. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2017
  29. Jeff KingOct 13, 2017
  30. 0/4 peeling back color.ui=always hacksJeff King, Oct 13, 2017
  31. 1/4 Revert "color: make "always" the same as "auto" in config"Jeff King, Oct 13, 2017
  32. 2/4 Revert "t6006: drop "always" color config tests"Jeff King, Oct 13, 2017
  33. 3/4 Revert "color: check color.ui in git_default_config()"Jeff King, Oct 13, 2017
  34. 4/4 tag: respect color.ui configJeff King, Oct 13, 2017
  35. Junio C HamanoOct 14, 2017
  36. Jeff KingOct 16, 2017
  37. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2017
  38. Junio C HamanoOct 17, 2017
  39. Jeff KingOct 18, 2017
  40. Junio C HamanoOct 18, 2017
  41. Jonathan NiederOct 17, 2017
  42. Jeff KingOct 18, 2017

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