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Re: [PATCH v6 09/12] split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index test

From
Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Date
Sep 20, 2017, 17:46 UTC
Message-ID
<20170920174613.GA27425@aiede.mtv.corp.google.com>
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<43c9d3b2-2895-adcb-6f77-b6967aacf9c8@gmail.com>
Hi,
Ben Peart wrote:
> On 9/19/2017 4:43 PM, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
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>> This feels to me like the wrong fix.  Wouldn't it be better for the
>> test not to depend on the precise object ids?  See the "Tips for
>> Writing Tests" section in t/README:
>
> I completely agree that a better fix would be to rewrite the test to
> not hard code the SHA values.  I'm sure this will come to bite us
> again as we discuss the migration to a different SHA algorithm.
nit: the kind of change I'm proposing does not entail a full rewrite. :)

The SHA migration aspect is true, but that's actually the least of my worries. I intend to introduce a SHA1 test prereq that crazy tests which want to depend on the hash function can declare a dependency on.

My actual worry is that tests hard-coding object ids are (1) hard to understand, as illustrated by my having no clue what these particular object ids refer to and (2) very brittle, since an object id changes whenever a timestamp or any of the history leading to an object changes. They create a trap for anyone wanting to change the test later. They are basically change detector tests, which is generally accepted to be a bad practice.

> That said, I think fixing this correctly is outside the scope of
> this patch series.  It has been written this way since it was
> created back in 2014 (and patched in 2015 to hard code the V4 index
> SHA).
Fair enough.
> If desired, this patch can simply be dropped from the series
> entirely as I doubt anyone other than me will attempt to run it with
> the fsmonitor extension turned on.
*shrug*
My motivations in the context of the review were:
 * now that we noticed the problem, we have an opportunity to fix it!
   (i.e. a fix would not have to be part of this series and would not
   necessarily have to be written by you)
 * if we include this non-fix, the commit message really needs to say
   something about it.  Otherwise people are likely to cargo-cult it
   in other contexts and make the problem worse.

Thanks, Jonathan

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Message 69 of 137 in “Fast git status via a file system watcher”
  1. 0/7 Fast git status via a file system watcherBen Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  2. 2/7 dir: make lookup_untracked() available outside of dir.cBen Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  3. 1/7 bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64Ben Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  4. 4/7 fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extensionBen Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  5. Christian CouderJun 27, 2017
  6. Ben PeartJul 7, 2017
  7. 3/7 fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files.Ben Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  8. Christian CouderJun 27, 2017
  9. Ben PeartJul 3, 2017
  10. 6/7 fsmonitor: add a sample query-fsmonitor hook script for WatchmanBen Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  11. 7/7 fsmonitor: add a performance testBen Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  12. Ben PeartJun 10, 2017
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 12, 2017
  14. Ben PeartJun 14, 2017
  15. Junio C HamanoJun 14, 2017
  16. Ben PeartJul 7, 2017
  17. Junio C HamanoJul 7, 2017
  18. Ben PeartJul 7, 2017
  19. David TurnerJul 7, 2017
  20. Christian CouderJul 8, 2017
  21. 5/7 fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension.Ben Peart, Jun 10, 2017
  22. Christian CouderJun 28, 2017
  23. Ben PeartJul 10, 2017
  24. Ben PeartJul 10, 2017
  25. 00/12 Fast git status via a file system watcherBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  26. 01/12 bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64Ben Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  27. 04/12 fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files.Ben Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  28. David TurnerSep 15, 2017
  29. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  30. David TurnerSep 18, 2017
  31. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  32. 05/12 fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension.Ben Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  33. David TurnerSep 15, 2017
  34. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  35. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2017
  36. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  37. 07/12 update-index: add fsmonitor support to update-indexBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  38. 06/12 ls-files: Add support in ls-files to display the fsmonitor valid bitBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  39. David TurnerSep 15, 2017
  40. 10/12 fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extensionBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  41. David TurnerSep 15, 2017
  42. David TurnerSep 19, 2017
  43. Ben PeartSep 19, 2017
  44. Torsten BögershausenSep 16, 2017
  45. 1/1 test-lint: echo -e (or -E) is not portabletboegi@web.de, Sep 17, 2017
  46. Jonathan NiederSep 19, 2017
  47. Torsten BögershausenSep 20, 2017
  48. Junio C HamanoSep 22, 2017
  49. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  50. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2017
  51. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  52. Jonathan NiederSep 19, 2017
  53. 12/12 fsmonitor: add a performance testBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  54. David TurnerSep 15, 2017
  55. Johannes SchindelinSep 18, 2017
  56. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  57. Johannes SchindelinSep 19, 2017
  58. 11/12 fsmonitor: add a sample integration script for WatchmanBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  59. 08/12 fsmonitor: add a test tool to dump the index extensionBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  60. Junio C HamanoSep 17, 2017
  61. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  62. Torsten BögershausenSep 18, 2017
  63. Ben PeartSep 18, 2017
  64. Torsten BögershausenSep 19, 2017
  65. Ben PeartSep 19, 2017
  66. 09/12 split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index testBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  67. Jonathan NiederSep 19, 2017
  68. Ben PeartSep 20, 2017
  69. Jonathan NiederSep 20, 2017
  70. Ben PeartSep 21, 2017
  71. 03/12 update-index: add a new --force-write-index optionBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  72. 02/12 preload-index: add override to enable testing preload-indexBen Peart, Sep 15, 2017
  73. 00/12 Fast git status via a file system watcherBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  74. 01/12 bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64Ben Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  75. 02/12 preload-index: add override to enable testing preload-indexBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  76. Stefan BellerSep 20, 2017
  77. Ben PeartSep 21, 2017
  78. Stefan BellerSep 21, 2017
  79. 05/12 fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension.Ben Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  80. Martin ÅgrenSep 20, 2017
  81. Ben PeartSep 20, 2017
  82. Martin ÅgrenSep 20, 2017
  83. 04/12 fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files.Ben Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  84. Junio C HamanoSep 20, 2017
  85. Ben PeartSep 20, 2017
  86. Junio C HamanoSep 21, 2017
  87. Ben PeartSep 21, 2017
  88. Ben PeartSep 21, 2017
  89. Junio C HamanoSep 22, 2017
  90. Junio C HamanoSep 20, 2017
  91. Ben PeartSep 20, 2017
  92. 08/12 fsmonitor: add a test tool to dump the index extensionBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  93. 09/12 split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index testBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  94. 07/12 update-index: add fsmonitor support to update-indexBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  95. 10/12 fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extensionBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  96. 03/12 update-index: add a new --force-write-index optionBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  97. Junio C HamanoSep 20, 2017
  98. Ben PeartSep 20, 2017
  99. Junio C HamanoSep 21, 2017
  100. Ben PeartSep 21, 2017
  101. Junio C HamanoSep 21, 2017
  102. Junio C HamanoSep 21, 2017
  103. 12/12 fsmonitor: add a performance testBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  104. 11/12 fsmonitor: add a sample integration script for WatchmanBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  105. 06/12 ls-files: Add support in ls-files to display the fsmonitor valid bitBen Peart, Sep 19, 2017
  106. David TurnerSep 19, 2017
  107. Ben PeartSep 19, 2017
  108. David TurnerSep 19, 2017
  109. Ben PeartSep 19, 2017
  110. 00/12 Fast git status via a file system watcherBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  111. 02/12 preload-index: add override to enable testing preload-indexBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  112. 01/12 bswap: add 64 bit endianness helper get_be64Ben Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  113. Martin ÅgrenSep 22, 2017
  114. Ben PeartSep 23, 2017
  115. Jeff KingSep 24, 2017
  116. Junio C HamanoSep 24, 2017
  117. 03/12 update-index: add a new --force-write-index optionBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  118. 11/12 fsmonitor: add a sample integration script for WatchmanBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  119. 04/12 fsmonitor: teach git to optionally utilize a file system monitor to speed up detecting new or changed files.Ben Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  120. 10/12 fsmonitor: add test cases for fsmonitor extensionBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  121. 09/12 split-index: disable the fsmonitor extension when running the split index testBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  122. 12/12 fsmonitor: add a performance testBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  123. 06/12 ls-files: Add support in ls-files to display the fsmonitor valid bitBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  124. 05/12 fsmonitor: add documentation for the fsmonitor extension.Ben Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  125. 07/12 update-index: add fsmonitor support to update-indexBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  126. 08/12 fsmonitor: add a test tool to dump the index extensionBen Peart, Sep 22, 2017
  127. Martin ÅgrenSep 22, 2017
  128. Ben PeartSep 23, 2017
  129. Junio C HamanoSep 24, 2017
  130. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2017
  131. Ben PeartSep 29, 2017
  132. Junio C HamanoOct 1, 2017
  133. Ben PeartOct 3, 2017
  134. Junio C HamanoOct 4, 2017
  135. Alex VandiverOct 4, 2017
  136. Ben PeartOct 4, 2017
  137. Ben PeartOct 4, 2017

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