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Re: [PATCH v2 0/6] Make "local" orthogonal to date format

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John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk>
Date
Sep 2, 2015, 20:21 UTC
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On Wed, Sep 02, 2015 at 01:11:35PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> John Keeping <john@keeping.me.uk> writes:
> > OTOH, I don't think there's any disagreement about what "relative-local"
> > and "raw-local" would output were they supported, just whether they are
> > useful.  There doesn't seem to be any harm in supporting them;
> > "relative-local" will be identical to "relative" and "raw-local" will
> > require preparatory code movement for the raw output.
> 
> Sure.
> 
> Bikeshedding further, while Peff's message "-local is meaningless"
> is a correct statement of the fact, I do not think it explains well
> why we chose to error out instead of giving the most natural result
> (i.e. exactly the same as 'relative').
> 
> Perhaps stating "relative-local is not supported" without saying why
> would be better.  "Because it is meaningless, we refuse to support
> the option." is a very strong statement that tells aspiring future
> Git hackers not to attempt to add a support for it, which is
> probably a wrong message to send.
In which case, should we just support it now?

Normally I'd suggest banning controversial options on the basis that it's easier in the future to allow something that was previously banned than change the meaning of an options, but in this case I can't see any other meaning for these options than that described above.

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Message 38 of 59 in “date: allow any format to display local time”
  1. date: allow any format to display local timeJohn Keeping, Aug 30, 2015
  2. Junio C HamanoAug 31, 2015
  3. Jeff KingAug 31, 2015
  4. Jeff KingAug 31, 2015
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 31, 2015
  6. John KeepingAug 31, 2015
  7. Jeff KingAug 31, 2015
  8. 1/2 fast-import: switch crash-report date to iso8601Jeff King, Aug 31, 2015
  9. 2/2 date: make "local" orthogonal to date formatJeff King, Aug 31, 2015
  10. John KeepingAug 31, 2015
  11. Jeff KingAug 31, 2015
  12. Jeff KingAug 31, 2015
  13. John KeepingSep 1, 2015
  14. 0/6 Make "local" orthogonal to date formatJohn Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  15. 1/6 fast-import: switch crash-report date to iso8601John Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  16. 2/6 date: make "local" orthogonal to date formatJohn Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  17. Junio C HamanoSep 1, 2015
  18. Jeff KingSep 1, 2015
  19. John KeepingSep 1, 2015
  20. Jeff KingSep 1, 2015
  21. Junio C HamanoSep 1, 2015
  22. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2015
  23. 3/6 t6300: introduce test_date() helperJohn Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  24. Junio C HamanoSep 1, 2015
  25. Eric SunshineSep 1, 2015
  26. Jeff KingSep 1, 2015
  27. John KeepingSep 1, 2015
  28. Jeff KingSep 1, 2015
  29. 4/6 t6300: make UTC and local dates differentJohn Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  30. 5/6 t6300: add test for "raw" date formatJohn Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  31. 6/6 t6300: add tests for "-local" date formatsJohn Keeping, Sep 1, 2015
  32. Jeff KingSep 1, 2015
  33. John KeepingSep 2, 2015
  34. Jeff KingSep 2, 2015
  35. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2015
  36. John KeepingSep 2, 2015
  37. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2015
  38. John KeepingSep 2, 2015
  39. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2015
  40. Jeff KingSep 2, 2015
  41. 00/11 Make "local" orthogonal to date formatJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  42. 01/11 Documentation/blame-options: don't list date formatsJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  43. 02/11 Documentation/config: don't list date formatsJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  44. 03/11 Documentation/git-for-each-ref: don't list date formatsJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  45. 04/11 Documentation/rev-list: don't list date formatsJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  46. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2015
  47. 05/11 fast-import: switch crash-report date to iso8601John Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  48. 06/11 t6300: introduce test_date() helperJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  49. 07/11 t6300: add test for "raw" date formatJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  50. 08/11 date: check for "local" before anything elseJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  51. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2015
  52. 09/11 date: make "local" orthogonal to date formatJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  53. 10/11 t6300: make UTC and local dates differentJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  54. 11/11 t6300: add tests for "-local" date formatsJohn Keeping, Sep 3, 2015
  55. Jeff KingSep 8, 2015
  56. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2015
  57. Jeff KingSep 2, 2015
  58. John KeepingSep 2, 2015
  59. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2015

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