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Re: Feature request: fetch --prune by default

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KKKonstantin Khomoutov <flatworm@users.sourceforge.net>
Date
Jul 19, 2012, 17:34 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:21:21 +0200 Alexey Muranov <alexey.muranov@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]
> I do not still understand very well some aspects of Git, like the
> exact purpose of "remote tracking branches" (are they for pull or for
> push?), so i may be wrong.

This is wery well explained in the Pro Git book, for instance. And in numerous blog posts etc.

> However, i thought that a user was not
> expected to follow the moves of a remote branch of which the user is
> not an owner: if the user needs to follow the brach and not lose its
> commits, he/she should create a remote tracking branch.

This would present another namespacing issue: how would you name the branches you're interested in so that they don't clash with your own personal local branches? You'd have to invent a scheme which would encode the remote's name in a branch name. But remote branches already do just this. So you create a remote tracking branch when you intend to actually *develop* something on that branch with the final intention to push that work back.

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> > So I think it would be a lot more palatable if we kept reflogs on
> > deleted branches. That, in turn, has a few open issues, such as how
> > to manage namespace conflicts (e.g., the fact that a deleted "foo"
> > branch can conflict with a new "foo/bar" branch).
> 
> I prefer to think of a remote branch and its local copy as the same
> thing, which are physically different only because of current real
> world/hardware/software limitations, which make it necessary to keep
> a local cache of remote data.  With this approach, reflogs should be
> deleted with the branch, and there will be no namespace conflicts.

It appears, the distributed nature of a DVCS did not fully sink into your mindset yet. ;-) Looks like you mentally treat a Git remote as a thing being used to access a centralized "reference" server which maintains a master copy of a repository, of which you happen to also have a local copy. Then it's quite logically to think that if someone deleted a branch in the master copy, everyone "downstream" should have the same remote branch deleted to be in sync with that master copy. But this is not the only way to organize your work. You could fetch from someone else's repository and be interested in their branch "foo", but think what happens when you fetch next time from that repo and see Git happily deleting your local branch thatremote/foo simply because someone with push access deleted that branch from the repo. This might *not* be what you really want or expect.

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Message 9 of 52 in “Feature request: fetch --prune by default”
  1. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  2. Jeff KingJul 19, 2012
  3. Dan JohnsonJul 19, 2012
  4. Stefan HallerJul 19, 2012
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 16, 2012
  6. Jeff KingAug 21, 2012
  7. Sam RobertsJun 20, 2013
  8. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  9. Konstantin KhomoutovJul 19, 2012
  10. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  11. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  12. Johannes SixtJul 20, 2012
  13. Alexey MuranovJul 20, 2012
  14. Junio C HamanoAug 16, 2012
  15. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  16. Dan JohnsonJul 19, 2012
  17. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  18. 0/3 reflog graveyardJeff King, Jul 19, 2012
  19. 1/3 retain reflogs for deleted refsJeff King, Jul 19, 2012
  20. Alexey MuranovJul 19, 2012
  21. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  22. Alexey MuranovJul 20, 2012
  23. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2012
  24. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  25. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  26. Junio C HamanoJul 20, 2012
  27. Junio C HamanoJul 20, 2012
  28. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  29. Junio C HamanoAug 16, 2012
  30. Michael HaggertyJul 20, 2012
  31. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  32. Johannes SixtJul 20, 2012
  33. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  34. Alexey MuranovJul 22, 2012
  35. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyJul 26, 2012
  36. Alexey MuranovJul 26, 2012
  37. Matthieu MoyJul 26, 2012
  38. Jeff KingJul 26, 2012
  39. Alexey MuranovJul 26, 2012
  40. Junio C HamanoJul 26, 2012
  41. Jeff KingJul 26, 2012
  42. Alexey MuranovJul 22, 2012
  43. Alexey MuranovJul 22, 2012
  44. Jeff KingJul 22, 2012
  45. Alexey MuranovJul 22, 2012
  46. Jeff KingJul 22, 2012
  47. Johannes SixtJul 20, 2012
  48. 2/3 teach sha1_name to look in graveyard reflogsJeff King, Jul 19, 2012
  49. Junio C HamanoJul 19, 2012
  50. Jeff KingJul 20, 2012
  51. Junio C HamanoJul 22, 2012
  52. 3/3 add tests for reflogs of deleted refsJeff King, Jul 19, 2012

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