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Re: [1.8.0] Provide proper remote ref namespaces

From
Johan Herland <johan@herland.net>
Date
Feb 7, 2011, 08:58 UTC
Message-ID
<201102070958.11551.johan@herland.net>
In-Reply-To
<20110207051123.GA4748@sigill.intra.peff.net>
On Monday 07 February 2011, Jeff King wrote:
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> On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 04:51:37AM +0100, Johan Herland wrote:
> > > Take the example of the interim maintainer cited somewhere else in
> > > this thread. If Shawn fetches from Junio, he'll get a junio/v1.7.4
> > > tag, and on my side, I do not want to end up having
> > > shawn/junio/v1.7.4, especially if this means that people fetching
> > > from me would end up with a me/shawn/junio/v1.7.4 ...
> > 
> > You won't end up with "shawn/junio/v1.7.4". When Shawn fetches from
> > Junio, what he actually gets is "refs/remotes/junio/tags/v1.7.4"
> > ("junio/v1.7.4" is a shorthand; "v1.7.4" is an even better shorthand).
> 
> But keep in mind that this proposal will have to live alongside repos
> that are using older versions of git. So Shawn might very well have
> refs/tags/v1.7.4 from Junio if he is using (or has ever used) pre-1.8.0
> git.
Yes, but since they point to the same object, there's no ambiguity.

I'm also starting to wonder whether we should, in existing repos with existing remotes, keep using the old-style refspecs by default, thereby making new-style refspecs the default only for _new_ repos. It seems mixing the two styles in one repo would cause confusion. Another alternative would be to transform old-style remotes into new-style remotes, but I believe that was shot down elsewhere in this thread.

> No, that won't give you me/shawn/junio/v1.7.4, but it does mean we have
> to gracefully handle the case of ambiguous duplicate tags (that happen
> to point to the same thing).

Whoa, we use the "ambiguous" term differently here. In this whole thread I have used "ambiguous" exclusively about when the same (shorthand) tag name point to _different_ things. As long as they point to the same thing, there is no ambiguity, IMHO.

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> Which I think you are implying here:
> > Next, you should never pull from Shawn's work repo, but rather from the
> > repo he has published. In that repo he will typically have pushed the
> > "v1.7.4" tag (as described above). When you pull from Shawn's public
> > repo, you will get the "v1.7.4" tag at
> > "refs/remotes/shawn/tags/v1.7.4" (but "v1.7.4" is an unambigious
> > shorthand).
> 
> But I wanted to point it out explicitly.

Yes, over its lifetime a tag name ("v1.7.4") might appear in several namespaces (refs/tags, refs/remotes/*/tags), but it's always identifiable with the shorthand "v1.7.4" name (assuming no other "v1.7.4" name point to a different object).

This is the same technique we use when talking about branch names: On this mailing list, nobody is confused when I refer to 'maint', 'master', 'next' and 'pu'. Still, in our own work repos (at least in mine), these branches are actually called "refs/remotes/origin/<name>" (commonly referred to by their shorthands "origin/<name>"). Here we are, juggling the same kind of namespaces that I propose for tags, and it seems to work well without causing much confusion.

...Johan
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Johan Herland, <johan@herland.net>
www.herland.net
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  76. Bernhard R. LinkFeb 16, 2011
  77. Jakub NarebskiFeb 14, 2011
  78. Marc BranchaudFeb 14, 2011
  79. Nicolas PitreFeb 14, 2011
  80. Junio C HamanoFeb 14, 2011
  81. Nicolas PitreFeb 14, 2011
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  85. Nicolas PitreFeb 5, 2011
  86. Jeff KingFeb 5, 2011
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  88. Johan HerlandFeb 5, 2011
  89. Junio C HamanoFeb 6, 2011
  90. Marc BranchaudFeb 7, 2011
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  92. Nicolas PitreFeb 7, 2011
  93. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2011
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  96. Nicolas PitreFeb 7, 2011
  97. Jeff KingFeb 7, 2011
  98. Johan HerlandFeb 1, 2011
  99. Nicolas PitreFeb 7, 2011
  100. Dmitry PotapovFeb 8, 2011
  101. Johan HerlandFeb 8, 2011
  102. Enrico WeigeltFeb 8, 2011
  103. Junio C HamanoFeb 8, 2011
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