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Re: Re: [PATCH/RFC] builtin-checkout: suggest creating local branch when appropriate to do so

From
Björn Steinbrink <b.steinbrink@gmx.de>
Date
Oct 12, 2009, 18:36 UTC
Message-ID
<20091012183658.GA17857@atjola.homenet>
In-Reply-To
<alpine.DEB.1.00.0910120941150.4985@pacific.mpi-cbg.de>
On 2009.10.12 09:49:50 +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Euguess@gmail.com wrote:
> > I'ma new user of git and I don't think i will ever have a commit in 
> > git.git, because I'm not a programmer (I'm QA).
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> > As for the solution i would choose the "simplest thing that will work" - 
> > so i think that we just have to notify user about his suicide attempt to 
> > checkout nonlocal branch and offer him a correct syntax to go with.
> >
> > Something like below should work:
> > 
> > % git clone git://git.git git
> > % git checkout next
> > You're attempting to checkout to non-local branch. This will lead to your HEAD
> > being detached (our team is on its way!).
> > Do you want to check out local branch 'next' tracking 'origin/next' instead?
> > y/n
> > 
> > if yes, then:
> > Created branch "next" tracking "origin/next"
> > You can update it with 'git pull'.
> > 
> > If no - abort or continue with checkout to nonlocal branch? ('m not sure if
> > detaching HEAD can provide some benefits if done on purpose)
> > 
> > I hope I'm not missing anything...
> 
> No, I think that is something perfectly fine to expect in a software whose 
> UI complexity is unfortunately pretty much in disagreement with its 
> internal complexity.
> 
> One thing one might add for the technically inclined folks (i.e. those who 
> need to implement, and to see that Git is in dear need of some 
> user-friendliness first): "git checkout" is a porcelain (i.e. a program 
> meant for end-user consumption), and as such should not have a problem to 
> react to isatty(0) (i.e. "is the input coming directly from the 
> console?").

So I didn't mean to chime in, but anyway... A few days ago, uau on #git said that he thinks that "git clone" shouldn't create any branch heads at all. Instead, git should learn to do something like "svn up", when the user checked out a remote tracking branch. That was specifically meant for users that _don't_ commit, like, say, QA guys ;-)

I didn't quite agree on the idea (feel free to tell me that I just blank out UI problems :-p), but anyway, I felt like coming up with some hack that achieves said functionality. The result was inspired by "git checkout -" and looks at HEAD's reflog to figure out whether the user has checked out a remote tracking branch the last time he used checkout to switch branches. I dared to call it "git-up" in my $HOME/bin ;-)

#!/bin/bash MODE=${1:---merge}

RTB=$(git rev-parse --symbolic-full-name $(git reflog | grep 'checkout: moving from .* to' | head -1 | sed -e 's/.* to //'))
if [ ${RTB:0:13} != "refs/remotes/" ]
then
	echo "You're not on a remote tracking branch"
	exit 1
fi

SRTB=${RTB#refs/remotes/} REMOTE=${SRTB%/*} git fetch $REMOTE git reset $MODE $RTB

It's obviously basically just "git reset" on crack, happily dropping local commits. A "real" implementation would likely have to have more checks to ensure that the user is using it in an expected way (like checking that refs/remotes/whatever..HEAD is empty). And it could be made to work with regular branch heads as well then, as a "fast-forward only" way of updating (think "git merge --ff-only", but in a less illogical way, as "--ff-only" actually means "don't create a merge", which is kinda weird, at least to me).

As I said, I don't really agree on the idea of not creating any branch heads on "clone", but maybe it's because I'm not a "don't commit, just watch" person. And the theoretical "git up" command might be handy for guys that just want to follow things, and thus don't really need branch heads. At the moment, I don't have any intentions to improve the hack (also due to lack of time), but if it seems worthwhile to anyone, feel free to pick it up.

Björn, -ENOPATCH ;-)
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  14. Johannes SchindelinOct 6, 2009
  15. Matthieu MoyOct 6, 2009
  16. Mikael MagnussonOct 6, 2009
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  18. Junio C HamanoOct 18, 2009
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  20. 2/3 DWIM "git checkout frotz" to "git checkout -b frotz origin/frotz"Junio C Hamano, Oct 18, 2009
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  58. Johannes SchindelinOct 12, 2009
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  60. Thomas RastOct 12, 2009
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  84. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2009
  85. Johannes SchindelinOct 13, 2009
  86. Thomas RastOct 14, 2009
  87. Johannes SchindelinOct 16, 2009
  88. Thomas RastOct 16, 2009
  89. Uri OkrentOct 25, 2009
  90. Junio C HamanoOct 26, 2009
  91. Björn SteinbrinkOct 13, 2009

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