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Re: Friendly refspecs

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TLTeemu Likonen <tlikonen@iki.fi>
Date
Apr 13, 2008, 09:31 UTC
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Jeff King wrote (2008-04-09 18:51 -0400):
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> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:25:00AM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote:
> 
> > Another thing I spoke of was this refs/ stuff. I know my way around
> > with them now, so maybe they are not actually confusing to me
> > anymore. It's just that I have noticed a pattern: I always use
> > refs/heads/... in certain places and refs/remotes/ in certain
> > places. If such a pattern is very common (well, I don't know if it
> > is) one starts to think that maybe the pattern can/should be hidden
> > and made part of the tool. Just thoughts.
> 
> I almost never use refs/remotes/ or refs/heads/. Some effort has been
> put into doing the right thing with partial refnames (which you can of
> course override by being more specific). Do you have specific examples
> of where you use the full refname? I suspect it is either not required
> (and documentation may be out of date), or it is a bug we could fix.
> :)

In real work I have used refs/heads/...:refs/remotes/... only once or maybe twice (I just quite recently started using Git). But when I studied Git and the workflows it supports I tried all kinds of fetching, pulling and pushing, back and forth, between test repos. There I used refs/ paths a lot, almost all the time actually. At first it was very much just trying to see how they work and this is where I found this common pattern: local refs start with refs/heads/ and remote tracking ones with refs/remotes/ . Thoughts like "why not simplify them, like L: for local and R: for remote" (or something) started to develop.

Now it seems that I have been too much attached to the full refspec form. My guide have been the config remote.<name>.fetch as "git remote add" adds those long refspecs. Now I learnt that almost all refspecs can be written as "branch:another" or "branch:remotes/another" for example. So the "friendly refspecs" are pretty much already there! Well, I've been stupid. :)

(I understand that in real work when constantly dealing with same remote repos one just adds a remote config and can forget about URLs and probably most of the refspecs too.)

Ok, this was partly an RTFM error but even after reading man pages of fetch, pull and push it isn't quite clear how to use these short and nice and friendly refspecs. I thought about it and decided to add some more examples to fetch manual (see my patch in the next message). My English may not be manual-writing quality but I wanted to do something useful anyway. Somebody needs to proof read my text though. Of course there may be some inaccuracies too. Anyway, I think that concrete examples in manuals help people to understand Git better.

There is still one thing (at least) that I don't quite understand. It's about "git push". When I do

  $ git push <remote> <branch>

the refs/heads/<branch> is updated or created on the remote side. But if I do

  $ git push <remote> <branch1>:<branch2>

the refs/heads/<branch2> is not automatically created. Why there is need to say "<branch1>:refs/heads/<branch2>" to make it work if <branch2> does not exist? The 'git push' manual says something vague about branch not matching (?). What does it mean?

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Message 22 of 86 in “git annoyances”
  1. Ingo MolnarApr 9, 2008
  2. Björn SteinbrinkApr 9, 2008
  3. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  4. git-remote: show all remotes with "git remote show"Jeff King, Apr 9, 2008
  5. Johannes SchindelinApr 9, 2008
  6. Junio C HamanoApr 10, 2008
  7. Ingo MolnarApr 9, 2008
  8. Ingo MolnarApr 10, 2008
  9. Avery PennarunApr 9, 2008
  10. Karl HasselströmApr 10, 2008
  11. Avery PennarunApr 10, 2008
  12. Karl HasselströmApr 11, 2008
  13. Friendly refspecs (Was: Re: git annoyances)Teemu Likonen, Apr 9, 2008
  14. Avery PennarunApr 9, 2008
  15. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  16. Teemu LikonenApr 9, 2008
  17. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  18. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  19. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  20. Junio C HamanoApr 10, 2008
  21. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  22. Teemu LikonenApr 13, 2008
  23. Add examples section to 'git fetch' manualTeemu Likonen, Apr 13, 2008
  24. Junio C HamanoApr 13, 2008
  25. Matt GrahamApr 13, 2008
  26. Teemu LikonenApr 13, 2008
  27. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2008
  28. Jeff KingApr 16, 2008
  29. Jeff KingApr 16, 2008
  30. Junio C HamanoApr 16, 2008
  31. Jeff KingApr 16, 2008
  32. Daniel BarkalowApr 16, 2008
  33. Junio C HamanoApr 16, 2008
  34. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  35. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2008
  36. Daniel BarkalowApr 22, 2008
  37. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  38. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  39. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2008
  40. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  41. Teemu LikonenApr 23, 2008
  42. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2008
  43. Andreas EricssonApr 23, 2008
  44. Jeff KingApr 23, 2008
  45. Jeff KingApr 23, 2008
  46. Teemu LikonenApr 23, 2008
  47. Junio C HamanoApr 9, 2008
  48. Teemu LikonenApr 10, 2008
  49. Santiago GalaApr 12, 2008
  50. Daniel BarkalowApr 9, 2008
  51. Ingo MolnarApr 9, 2008
  52. Daniel BarkalowApr 10, 2008
  53. Junio C HamanoApr 9, 2008
  54. Jon LoeligerApr 9, 2008
  55. Nicolas PitreApr 9, 2008
  56. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  57. André Goddard RosaApr 9, 2008
  58. Govind SalinasApr 10, 2008
  59. Jean-Christian de RivazApr 10, 2008
  60. Sverre RabbelierApr 10, 2008
  61. git-bisect annoyancesIngo Molnar, Apr 10, 2008
  62. Christian CouderApr 11, 2008
  63. Ingo MolnarApr 11, 2008
  64. Christian CouderApr 12, 2008
  65. Junio C HamanoApr 11, 2008
  66. When a remote is added but not fetched, tell the user.Gabriel, Apr 10, 2008
  67. Johannes SchindelinApr 11, 2008
  68. GabrielApr 11, 2008
  69. Default to fetching a remote after adding it.Gabriel, Apr 11, 2008
  70. Stephen SinclairApr 11, 2008
  71. Johannes SchindelinApr 12, 2008
  72. GabrielApr 12, 2008
  73. Johannes SchindelinApr 12, 2008
  74. Teemu LikonenApr 11, 2008
  75. Junio C HamanoApr 11, 2008
  76. Sverre RabbelierApr 11, 2008
  77. Junio C HamanoApr 11, 2008
  78. Sverre RabbelierApr 11, 2008
  79. Miles BaderApr 15, 2008
  80. Default to fetching a remote after adding it.Gabriel, Apr 11, 2008
  81. Wincent ColaiutaApr 11, 2008
  82. GabrielApr 11, 2008
  83. Luciano RochaApr 11, 2008
  84. Wincent ColaiutaApr 11, 2008
  85. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  86. Sverre RabbelierApr 10, 2008

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