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Re: Friendly refspecs (Was: Re: git annoyances)

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Apr 10, 2008, 00:33 UTC
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[Your message didn't go to the list, but I think it was supposed to, so I am re-adding the list].

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:16:57AM +0200, Sverre Rabbelier wrote:
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> >  I wonder if people like Linus who do a lot of one-off pulls would find
> >  that too cluttery. I guess we can post a patch and see. ;)
> 
> Maybe a 'newbie' configuration option could be added?
> We can then, if that option is set, provide this kind of information
> to the user.
> Then, later on, when the user is more confident, they can unset the option.
> I reckon it should be set to default-off but that we should provide an
> easy way to turn it on.
> (That is, 'git config newbie on', is easy enough, as long as it is
> mentioned in a/the newbie guide)

This has been discussed before, and I think the general consensus was that it's a bad idea to separate the "newbie" and "expert" experience too much. It makes it harder to provide advice and documentation that works for everyone.

Now that argument generally applies to _behavior_ changes, not verbosity of messages. But in this case, I think it is easy enough to find a "right" behavior for everyone: show the message on fetch, which would otherwise be a very confusing command, but suppress it on "pull", where the fetching is mostly a side effect.

-Peff
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  1. Ingo MolnarApr 9, 2008
  2. Björn SteinbrinkApr 9, 2008
  3. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  4. git-remote: show all remotes with "git remote show"Jeff King, Apr 9, 2008
  5. Johannes SchindelinApr 9, 2008
  6. Junio C HamanoApr 10, 2008
  7. Ingo MolnarApr 9, 2008
  8. Ingo MolnarApr 10, 2008
  9. Avery PennarunApr 9, 2008
  10. Karl HasselströmApr 10, 2008
  11. Avery PennarunApr 10, 2008
  12. Karl HasselströmApr 11, 2008
  13. Friendly refspecs (Was: Re: git annoyances)Teemu Likonen, Apr 9, 2008
  14. Avery PennarunApr 9, 2008
  15. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  16. Teemu LikonenApr 9, 2008
  17. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  18. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  19. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  20. Junio C HamanoApr 10, 2008
  21. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  22. Teemu LikonenApr 13, 2008
  23. Add examples section to 'git fetch' manualTeemu Likonen, Apr 13, 2008
  24. Junio C HamanoApr 13, 2008
  25. Matt GrahamApr 13, 2008
  26. Teemu LikonenApr 13, 2008
  27. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2008
  28. Jeff KingApr 16, 2008
  29. Jeff KingApr 16, 2008
  30. Junio C HamanoApr 16, 2008
  31. Jeff KingApr 16, 2008
  32. Daniel BarkalowApr 16, 2008
  33. Junio C HamanoApr 16, 2008
  34. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  35. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2008
  36. Daniel BarkalowApr 22, 2008
  37. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  38. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  39. Junio C HamanoApr 22, 2008
  40. Jeff KingApr 22, 2008
  41. Teemu LikonenApr 23, 2008
  42. Junio C HamanoApr 23, 2008
  43. Andreas EricssonApr 23, 2008
  44. Jeff KingApr 23, 2008
  45. Jeff KingApr 23, 2008
  46. Teemu LikonenApr 23, 2008
  47. Junio C HamanoApr 9, 2008
  48. Teemu LikonenApr 10, 2008
  49. Santiago GalaApr 12, 2008
  50. Daniel BarkalowApr 9, 2008
  51. Ingo MolnarApr 9, 2008
  52. Daniel BarkalowApr 10, 2008
  53. Junio C HamanoApr 9, 2008
  54. Jon LoeligerApr 9, 2008
  55. Nicolas PitreApr 9, 2008
  56. Jeff KingApr 9, 2008
  57. André Goddard RosaApr 9, 2008
  58. Govind SalinasApr 10, 2008
  59. Jean-Christian de RivazApr 10, 2008
  60. Sverre RabbelierApr 10, 2008
  61. git-bisect annoyancesIngo Molnar, Apr 10, 2008
  62. Christian CouderApr 11, 2008
  63. Ingo MolnarApr 11, 2008
  64. Christian CouderApr 12, 2008
  65. Junio C HamanoApr 11, 2008
  66. When a remote is added but not fetched, tell the user.Gabriel, Apr 10, 2008
  67. Johannes SchindelinApr 11, 2008
  68. GabrielApr 11, 2008
  69. Default to fetching a remote after adding it.Gabriel, Apr 11, 2008
  70. Stephen SinclairApr 11, 2008
  71. Johannes SchindelinApr 12, 2008
  72. GabrielApr 12, 2008
  73. Johannes SchindelinApr 12, 2008
  74. Teemu LikonenApr 11, 2008
  75. Junio C HamanoApr 11, 2008
  76. Sverre RabbelierApr 11, 2008
  77. Junio C HamanoApr 11, 2008
  78. Sverre RabbelierApr 11, 2008
  79. Miles BaderApr 15, 2008
  80. Default to fetching a remote after adding it.Gabriel, Apr 11, 2008
  81. Wincent ColaiutaApr 11, 2008
  82. GabrielApr 11, 2008
  83. Luciano RochaApr 11, 2008
  84. Wincent ColaiutaApr 11, 2008
  85. Jeff KingApr 10, 2008
  86. Sverre RabbelierApr 10, 2008

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