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Re: [RFC?] Telling git about more complex relationships between commits (Was: Re: FFmpeg considering GIT)

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Petr Baudis <pasky@suse.cz>
Date
May 4, 2007, 11:10 UTC
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<20070504111057.GI4489@pasky.or.cz>
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<200705040921.33443.johan@herland.net>
On Fri, May 04, 2007 at 09:21:29AM CEST, Johan Herland wrote:
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> On Friday 04 May 2007, Jakub Narebski wrote:
> > Besides I think it would be better to teach blame to ignore reversion
> > commits (for example based on first line of commit message) than to
> > mess with the history.
> 
> I'm starting to see a pattern where people would like to tell git about 
> more complicated relationships between commits, so that git can make 
> more intelligent decisions when doing merge, blame, pickaxe, etc.
> 
> Adding these relationships as part of the commit message seems like a 
> really stupid idea because git suddenly has to make sense of something 
> it has never parsed before, thus making all future and former git 
> commit messages a potential target for pattern (mis)matching by git. 
> Also, we seem to forget that we already have the perfect place to put 
> such information: The header fields preceding the commit message.
> 
> I therefore propose adding header field names to commit objects that 
> illustrate the relationships people want to tell git about.
  So I've looked it up, and the Linus' writeup on this is at
	http://news.gmane.org/find-root.php?message_id=<Pine.LNX.4.64.0604250758000.3701@g5.osdl.org>
> 1. "Reverts": Mark a commit as reverting another commit. This could be 
> used by git-log to cancel out pairs of commits, resulting in a cleaner 
> view of history. It can help blame/annotate. There are probably other 
> tools that can benefit from this information also.
  Actually I think git-log is the one tool which shouldn't cancel it
out. The number of reverts likely won't be overwhelming and reverting is
actually pretty important event - it says "this has been tried and we
decided it's not the way", also can have social meanings etc. It is an
important piece of history. And people still want to actually see the
change and possibly revive it. BTW, imagine their confusion if the
history looks like
	1abcd5 Feature X
	37efab Release 2.3.1
	724b9c Revert feature X

and git log would cancel out 1abcd5 and 724b9c. Feature X is part of 2.3.1 but not in the log..?!

  The point is that the reverting/reverted commit pairs don't affect
your current content (except maybe in an highly abstract way), and this
is why pickaxe and blame should skip it (by default).
  The question wrt. Linus' criteria is if "it has enough of a meaning",
and I wonder about that too. I think it does, though.
  For the other suggested headers, it should be already mostly obvious
from Linus' writeup why they shouldn't qualify, though.
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				Petr "Pasky" Baudis
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Message 15 of 66 in “FFmpeg considering GIT”
  1. Panagiotis IssarisMay 2, 2007
  2. Jakub NarebskiMay 2, 2007
  3. Petr BaudisMay 3, 2007
  4. Jakub NarebskiMay 4, 2007
  5. [RFC?] Telling git about more complex relationships between commits (Was: Re: FFmpeg considering GIT)Johan Herland, May 4, 2007
  6. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  7. Andy ParkinsMay 4, 2007
  8. Andrew RuderMay 4, 2007
  9. Johan HerlandMay 4, 2007
  10. Johan HerlandMay 4, 2007
  11. Alex RiesenMay 4, 2007
  12. Johan HerlandMay 5, 2007
  13. Alex RiesenMay 5, 2007
  14. Johan HerlandMay 5, 2007
  15. Petr BaudisMay 4, 2007
  16. Johan HerlandMay 4, 2007
  17. Martin LanghoffMay 3, 2007
  18. Uwe Kleine-KönigMay 3, 2007
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