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Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT

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APAndy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com>
Date
Dec 1, 2006, 12:12 UTC
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<200612011212.35656.andyparkins@gmail.com>
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On Friday 2006 December 01 11:10, Sven Verdoolaege wrote:
> You were proposing to create an extra object containing some random value
> that is disconnected from the repo.

Right, I think I've finally understood what Martin (and you) are proposing. You want every commit in the submodule to be propagated up to the supermodule as well. Okay.

I don't think it's right, but at least I understand.

It seems wrong because it's making commits in the supermodule that aren't commits to do with that project. In my libxcb example; why should every project use libxcb in have to store the entire history of libxcb? When examining the supermodule history, I won't care about how libxcb got to the state its in, and it's just noise in the supermodule history. What if I use 10 submodules, the supermodule history won't show you anything useful - it's just unrelated submodule commits.

It gets worse, this is why I was asking for more detail: this commit that you're storing in the supermodule. It's the same commit as is in the submodule? What would the parent commit of that commit be? It has to be the same in both, because the commit-hash forces it to be.

The only possibility would be that it's NOT the same hash in both, because the parents in the supermodule are inapplicable to the submodule, and the parent in the submodule is independent from the supermodule. That means you have to store two commits: one for the submodule commit and one for the supermodule commit. So what are you going to write in the supermodule commit? Answer: a submodule commit hash - exactly as I said.

> > Is that commit in the submodule or the supermodule?
>
> It's in BOTH.  That's why it's a *sub*module.

If it's in BOTH then the supermodule is a normal git repository. You aren't tracking the submodule, you're just including it en masse. Using semantics to justify a position isn't a very strong argument, calling it a "sub" module is just an easy bit of naming for us to hang the discussion on, it isn't necessarily a mathematical subset and superset.

Andy
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Dr Andy Parkins, M Eng (hons), MIEE
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  1. Jakub NarebskiNov 20, 2006
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  3. Junio C HamanoNov 20, 2006
  4. Jakub NarebskiNov 20, 2006
  5. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
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  7. Linus TorvaldsNov 20, 2006
  8. J. Bruce FieldsNov 20, 2006
  9. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
  10. J. Bruce FieldsNov 21, 2006
  11. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  12. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
  13. Junio C HamanoNov 21, 2006
  14. Jakub NarebskiNov 21, 2006
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  16. Jakub NarebskiNov 21, 2006
  17. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  18. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  19. Junio C HamanoNov 21, 2006
  20. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  21. Yann DirsonNov 21, 2006
  22. Linus TorvaldsNov 21, 2006
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  25. Shawn PearceNov 22, 2006
  26. Yann DirsonNov 23, 2006
  27. Shawn PearceNov 25, 2006
  28. Yann DirsonNov 25, 2006
  29. Linus TorvaldsNov 25, 2006
  30. Steven GrimmNov 25, 2006
  31. Linus TorvaldsNov 25, 2006
  32. Yann DirsonNov 25, 2006
  33. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 26, 2006
  34. Yann DirsonNov 26, 2006
  35. Linus TorvaldsNov 26, 2006
  36. Daniel BarkalowNov 26, 2006
  37. Andreas EricssonNov 28, 2006
  38. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  39. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 28, 2006
  40. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  41. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 28, 2006
  42. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  43. Shawn PearceNov 28, 2006
  44. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  45. Linus TorvaldsNov 28, 2006
  46. Stephan FederNov 30, 2006
  47. Andy ParkinsNov 30, 2006
  48. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 30, 2006
  49. Andy ParkinsNov 30, 2006
  50. Andreas EricssonNov 30, 2006
  51. Andy ParkinsNov 30, 2006
  52. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 30, 2006
  53. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  54. Jakub NarebskiDec 1, 2006
  55. Sven VerdoolaegeDec 1, 2006
  56. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  57. Martin WaitzNov 30, 2006
  58. sfNov 30, 2006
  59. sfNov 30, 2006
  60. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  61. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  62. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  63. Sven VerdoolaegeDec 1, 2006
  64. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  65. Sven VerdoolaegeDec 1, 2006
  66. sfDec 1, 2006
  67. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  68. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  69. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  70. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  71. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  72. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  73. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  74. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  75. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  76. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  77. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  78. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  79. Jakub NarebskiDec 2, 2006
  80. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  81. Andreas EricssonDec 1, 2006
  82. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006

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