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Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT

From
Shawn Pearce <spearce@spearce.org>
Date
Nov 22, 2006, 03:40 UTC
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<20061122034056.GB23856@spearce.org>
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<20061121235429.GH5443@nan92-1-81-57-214-146.fbx.proxad.net>
Yann Dirson <ydirson@altern.org> wrote:
> Put it another way, I see the proposal of allowing tree entries to be
> commits in addition to trees and blobs, akin to recording the submodule
> _history_ inside the _tree_, which I feel precisely violates the
> distinction you want to keep between those 2 concepts.
No.  Linus is right.  Submodule commits belong in the tree.

We want to record a specific subtree within a larger tree. There are three ways we can refer to a tree: by its tree SHA1, by a commit which points at the tree SHA1, or by a tag which points at a commit which points at the tree SHA1, or by a tag which points at a tag which points at a commit which points at a tree SHA1. Which is basically a tree-ish.

The advantage of linking to the commit-ish (commit or tag) and
not the tree-ish for a submodule is that it also provides you quick
access to answer the "how did this tree arive at this state" question
as the answer cannot come solely from the top level commit chain.
The reason... keep reading...
 
> What about the case of a subproject that would evolve fast, and for
> which we may not want intermediate versions to be part of the
> supermodule ?  (just exploring an idea without real connection to the
> one discussed above)

Right. The submodule is free to be committed to an infinite number of times for any given commit in the supermodule.

It is expected that users will commit to a submodule say hundreds of times for every commit they make to the supermodule. Or thousands. This is especially true if the submodule is some very large project, e.g. the Linux kernel, and the supermodule "upgrades" the kernel it is using after 3 months of staying on the same version. Suddenly the supermodule has only 1 commit which covers maybe 10,000 commits in the submodule.

Yet we still want to be able to efficiently perform operations like "git bisect" within the scope of that submodule, to help narrow down a particular bug that is within that submodule. To do that we need the commit chain (all 10,000 of those commits) in the submodule. To get those we really need a commit-ish and not a tree-ish, as going from a tree-ish to a commit-ish is not only not unique but is also pretty infeasible to do (you need to scan *every* commit).

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Message 25 of 82 in “Re: [RFC] Submodules in GIT”
  1. Jakub NarebskiNov 20, 2006
  2. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
  3. Junio C HamanoNov 20, 2006
  4. Jakub NarebskiNov 20, 2006
  5. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
  6. Sam VilainNov 21, 2006
  7. Linus TorvaldsNov 20, 2006
  8. J. Bruce FieldsNov 20, 2006
  9. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
  10. J. Bruce FieldsNov 21, 2006
  11. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  12. Martin WaitzNov 20, 2006
  13. Junio C HamanoNov 21, 2006
  14. Jakub NarebskiNov 21, 2006
  15. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  16. Jakub NarebskiNov 21, 2006
  17. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  18. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  19. Junio C HamanoNov 21, 2006
  20. Martin WaitzNov 21, 2006
  21. Yann DirsonNov 21, 2006
  22. Linus TorvaldsNov 21, 2006
  23. Linus TorvaldsNov 21, 2006
  24. Yann DirsonNov 21, 2006
  25. Shawn PearceNov 22, 2006
  26. Yann DirsonNov 23, 2006
  27. Shawn PearceNov 25, 2006
  28. Yann DirsonNov 25, 2006
  29. Linus TorvaldsNov 25, 2006
  30. Steven GrimmNov 25, 2006
  31. Linus TorvaldsNov 25, 2006
  32. Yann DirsonNov 25, 2006
  33. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 26, 2006
  34. Yann DirsonNov 26, 2006
  35. Linus TorvaldsNov 26, 2006
  36. Daniel BarkalowNov 26, 2006
  37. Andreas EricssonNov 28, 2006
  38. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  39. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 28, 2006
  40. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  41. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 28, 2006
  42. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  43. Shawn PearceNov 28, 2006
  44. Daniel BarkalowNov 28, 2006
  45. Linus TorvaldsNov 28, 2006
  46. Stephan FederNov 30, 2006
  47. Andy ParkinsNov 30, 2006
  48. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 30, 2006
  49. Andy ParkinsNov 30, 2006
  50. Andreas EricssonNov 30, 2006
  51. Andy ParkinsNov 30, 2006
  52. Sven VerdoolaegeNov 30, 2006
  53. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  54. Jakub NarebskiDec 1, 2006
  55. Sven VerdoolaegeDec 1, 2006
  56. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  57. Martin WaitzNov 30, 2006
  58. sfNov 30, 2006
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  60. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  61. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  62. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  63. Sven VerdoolaegeDec 1, 2006
  64. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  65. Sven VerdoolaegeDec 1, 2006
  66. sfDec 1, 2006
  67. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  68. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  69. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  70. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
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  72. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  73. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  74. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  75. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  76. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  77. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  78. Martin WaitzDec 1, 2006
  79. Jakub NarebskiDec 2, 2006
  80. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006
  81. Andreas EricssonDec 1, 2006
  82. Andy ParkinsDec 1, 2006

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