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Re: [Census] So who uses git?

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CBCarl Baldwin <cnb@fc.hp.com>
Date
Jan 30, 2006, 18:58 UTC
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Junio,

You don't seem to give git enough credit. I am a hardware engineer with many softwareish responsibilities. One of those is to keep up to date with the many commercial and free SCM type tools that are available.

Git has become my SCM tool of choice for many reasons.
- Anyone can install and fire it up without license/contract hassles.
- The infrastructure barriers to getting a project started with git are
  about as low as they can be.
- Geographically distributed teams even inside a corporation are
  becoming more common.  Git's repository design meets this need
  perfectly.
- The repository is also to designed to be inherently safe from
  data-loss and corruption even in the face of concurrent writes due to
  each objects' immutable nature.
- While on the subject of the repository.  Good job keeping it simple.
  I was able to learn pretty much all there is to know from a technical
  stand-point about the objects and refs directories in an afternoon.
  It follows a principle I always work toward myself.  "Make it simple
  enough that there are obviously no difficiencies rather than making it
  complicated so that there are no obvious difficiencies."
- In my opinion git is flexible enough to support just about any
  development/build/release flow that one can think of.  Most of the
  free tools (including subversion and arch) make branching and merging
  --- on which most of these flows rely --- way too heavy-weight.  Git
  shows how light-weight it can be.
  Not only can parallel development happen easily between
  users/repositories but parallel development is trivial even within the
  same repository.  I  think your 'pu' system illustrates how powerful
  it can be.  I myself have had up to four concurrent branches where I
  implemented four different features in parallel in the same repository
  easily switching between them.  It was almost too easy to bring them
  together using merge as each one finished.
  I was just reading through an article on how to choose an SCM last
  week and I kept thinking how git could be used to meet almost every
  one (if not all) of the needs discussed.
- Git supports enough network protocols to make it immediately useful in
  about any situation with firewalls and such.  This is where it leaves
  monotone behind.

The biggest hurdle that I've seen in adopting git is training the users. I myself took to it like a duck to water but I've found that even some of my brightest colleages have trouble wrapping their heads around it. Currently, I'm trying to look at what parts they are having the most trouble with. In general, I think it is grasping the reason for the index file and how git commands like git-commit and git-diff interact with it.

Even so, I've always appreciated those tools that may have a steeper learning curve but that pay dividends over time. Also, I should mention that this learning curve has been flattening over time as git has developed and obtained more porcelainish commands.

Carl
On Sat, Jan 28, 2006 at 01:08:54PM -0800, Junio C Hamano wrote:
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> Keith Packard <keithp@keithp.com> writes:
> 
> Wow.......  You are switching Cairo and X.org from CVS to git?
> 
> It could be that anything is better than CVS these days, but I
> have to admit that my jaw dropped after reading this, primarily
> because I've have never touched anything as big as X.
> 
> Awestruck, dumbstruck,... Xstruck.  Yeah, I know I should have
> more faith in git.  Earlier I heard Wine folks are running git
> in parallel with CVS as their dual primary SCM now, and of
> course git is the primary SCM for the Linux kernel project.
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Message 29 of 105 in “LCA06 Cogito/GIT workshop - (Re: git-whatchanged: exit out early on errors)”
  1. Martin LanghoffJan 26, 2006
  2. Linus TorvaldsJan 28, 2006
  3. Martin LanghoffJan 28, 2006
  4. Linus TorvaldsJan 28, 2006
  5. Junio C HamanoJan 28, 2006
  6. Fredrik KuivinenJan 29, 2006
  7. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2006
  8. Keith PackardJan 28, 2006
  9. [Census] So who uses git?Junio C Hamano, Jan 28, 2006
  10. Morten WelinderJan 29, 2006
  11. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2006
  12. Morten WelinderJan 29, 2006
  13. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2006
  14. Keith PackardJan 29, 2006
  15. Radoslaw SzkodzinskiJan 29, 2006
  16. Greg KHJan 29, 2006
  17. Radoslaw SzkodzinskiJan 31, 2006
  18. Radoslaw SzkodzinskiJan 31, 2006
  19. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2006
  20. Radoslaw SzkodzinskiJan 31, 2006
  21. Alex RiesenJan 30, 2006
  22. Linus TorvaldsJan 31, 2006
  23. J. Bruce FieldsJan 31, 2006
  24. Alex RiesenJan 31, 2006
  25. Dave JonesJan 29, 2006
  26. Daniel BarkalowJan 29, 2006
  27. Martin LanghoffJan 29, 2006
  28. Mike McCormackJan 30, 2006
  29. Carl BaldwinJan 30, 2006
  30. Johannes SchindelinJan 31, 2006
  31. Carl BaldwinJan 31, 2006
  32. Johannes SchindelinJan 31, 2006
  33. Linus TorvaldsJan 31, 2006
  34. J. Bruce FieldsJan 31, 2006
  35. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2006
  36. Jon LoeligerJan 31, 2006
  37. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2006
  38. J. Bruce FieldsJan 31, 2006
  39. Keith PackardJan 31, 2006
  40. Linus TorvaldsJan 31, 2006
  41. Joel BeckerJan 31, 2006
  42. Johannes SchindelinFeb 1, 2006
  43. Sam RavnborgJan 31, 2006
  44. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2006
  45. H. Peter AnvinFeb 1, 2006
  46. Daniel BarkalowJan 31, 2006
  47. Petr BaudisJan 31, 2006
  48. Junio C HamanoJan 31, 2006
  49. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  50. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  51. Daniel BarkalowFeb 1, 2006
  52. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  53. Carl WorthFeb 1, 2006
  54. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  55. Randal L. SchwartzFeb 1, 2006
  56. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  57. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  58. Nicolas PitreFeb 1, 2006
  59. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  60. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  61. Nicolas PitreFeb 1, 2006
  62. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  63. Nicolas PitreFeb 1, 2006
  64. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  65. Andreas EricssonFeb 2, 2006
  66. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  67. Two ideas for improving git's user interfaceCarl Worth, Feb 1, 2006
  68. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2006
  69. Carl WorthFeb 2, 2006
  70. Junio C HamanoFeb 2, 2006
  71. Carl WorthFeb 3, 2006
  72. Linus TorvaldsFeb 2, 2006
  73. Linus TorvaldsFeb 2, 2006
  74. Alan ChandlerFeb 4, 2006
  75. Junio C HamanoFeb 4, 2006
  76. Alan ChandlerFeb 4, 2006
  77. Carl WorthFeb 4, 2006
  78. Linus TorvaldsFeb 4, 2006
  79. Carl WorthFeb 6, 2006
  80. Florian WeimerFeb 2, 2006
  81. Carl BaldwinFeb 2, 2006
  82. Daniel BarkalowFeb 1, 2006
  83. Joel BeckerFeb 1, 2006
  84. H. Peter AnvinFeb 1, 2006
  85. J. Bruce FieldsJan 31, 2006
  86. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  87. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  88. "Assume unchanged" gitJunio C Hamano, Feb 9, 2006
  89. "Assume unchanged" git: do not set CE_VALID with --refreshJunio C Hamano, Feb 9, 2006
  90. ls-files: debugging aid for CE_VALID changes.Junio C Hamano, Feb 9, 2006
  91. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  92. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  93. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006
  94. Jason RiedyFeb 1, 2006
  95. Julian PhillipsFeb 1, 2006
  96. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  97. Chuck LeverFeb 6, 2006
  98. Martin LanghoffFeb 1, 2006
  99. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  100. H. Peter AnvinFeb 1, 2006
  101. Alex RiesenFeb 1, 2006
  102. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  103. Alex RiesenFeb 2, 2006
  104. Linus TorvaldsFeb 1, 2006
  105. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2006

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