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Re: [PATCH 1/9] docs: update pack index v3 format

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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Sep 20, 2025, 17:01 UTC
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"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:
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>> I do also agree that 32-byte is the natural size for the trailing
>> hash, but I found that the two paragraphs below was far more than
>> necessary.  As they argue, we use a truncated hash anywhere in our
>> file formats, so I would have understood if the explanation were
>> 
>>     "20" in "A copy of the 20-byte SHA-256 checksum" is an obvious
>>     typo, as SHA-256 is longer than that.  Fix it to "32".
>> 
>> instead of these two paragraphs.
>> 
>> Or did we mean to use a truncated hash back when this transition
>> design was proposed originally?
>
> I think we intended to use a 20-byte value originally because we felt we
> didn't need the full 32 bytes for an index or pack checksum.  However,
> as I mentioned, we use the 32-byte checksum for SHA-256 already, so all
> it does is add complexity to try to mandate a 20-byte value.

I think we are saying the same thing but from different sides of the same mirror.

SHA-256 packs and any csum-file based file would be using 32-byte checksum because with CSUM_HASH_IN_STREAM, finalize_hashfile() does not know any way to produce the trailing hash other than writing the full hash value, and that would be 32 bytes for SHA-256. This was exactly where my "20 certainly is a typo" impression came from.

Be it a typo or misdesign, picking 32 instead of 20 is a good thing to do now for a subsystem and fileformat that is not used anywhere in producation yet.

Thanks.
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Message 11 of 67 in “SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1”
  1. 0/9 SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1brian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  2. 3/9 docs: reflect actual double signature for tagsbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  3. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  4. brian m. carlsonSep 20, 2025
  5. Junio C HamanoSep 20, 2025
  6. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  7. brian m. carlsonSep 25, 2025
  8. 1/9 docs: update pack index v3 formatbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  9. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  10. brian m. carlsonSep 20, 2025
  11. Junio C HamanoSep 20, 2025
  12. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  13. brian m. carlsonSep 25, 2025
  14. 2/9 docs: update offset order for pack index v3brian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  15. 4/9 docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentationbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  16. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  17. 8/9 Allow specifying compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  18. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  19. brian m. carlsonSep 30, 2025
  20. 5/9 docs: add documentation for loose objectsbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  21. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  22. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  23. brian m. carlsonSep 19, 2025
  24. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  25. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  26. brian m. carlsonSep 25, 2025
  27. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  28. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  29. brian m. carlsonSep 30, 2025
  30. 6/9 rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  31. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  32. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  33. brian m. carlsonSep 25, 2025
  34. 7/9 fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tagsbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  35. Junio C HamanoSep 19, 2025
  36. brian m. carlsonSep 22, 2025
  37. 9/9 t: add a prerequisite for a compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Sep 19, 2025
  38. Patrick SteinhardtSep 24, 2025
  39. 0/9 SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1brian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  40. 1/9 docs: update pack index v3 formatbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  41. Junio C HamanoOct 3, 2025
  42. 3/9 docs: reflect actual double signature for tagsbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  43. 2/9 docs: update offset order for pack index v3brian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  44. 4/9 docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentationbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  45. Junio C HamanoOct 3, 2025
  46. brian m. carlsonOct 3, 2025
  47. 5/9 docs: add documentation for loose objectsbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  48. Junio C HamanoOct 3, 2025
  49. 7/9 fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tagsbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  50. 6/9 rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  51. 8/9 t: allow specifying compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  52. Junio C HamanoOct 3, 2025
  53. brian m. carlsonOct 3, 2025
  54. 9/9 t1010: use BROKEN_OBJECTS prerequisitebrian m. carlson, Oct 2, 2025
  55. 0/9 SHA-1/SHA-256 interoperability, part 1brian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  56. 3/9 docs: reflect actual double signature for tagsbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  57. 4/9 docs: improve ambiguous areas of pack format documentationbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  58. 2/9 docs: update offset order for pack index v3brian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  59. 1/9 docs: update pack index v3 formatbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  60. 5/9 docs: add documentation for loose objectsbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  61. 6/9 rev-parse: allow printing compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  62. 8/9 t: allow specifying compatibility hashbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  63. 7/9 fsck: consider gpgsig headers expected in tagsbrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  64. 9/9 t1010: use BROKEN_OBJECTS prerequisitebrian m. carlson, Oct 9, 2025
  65. Junio C HamanoOct 13, 2025
  66. brian m. carlsonOct 13, 2025
  67. Patrick SteinhardtOct 14, 2025

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