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Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Nov 16, 2021, 19:02 UTC
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"brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:
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> On 2021-11-15 at 07:00:25, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> "brian m. carlson" <sandals@crustytoothpaste.net> writes:
>> 
>> > Even for users who would like to target an older version of Windows,
>> > such as the no longer supported Windows 7, GCC and Clang are available.
>> > The LLVM suite, including Clang, is available pre-compiled for download
>> > free of charge.  Using a different compiler is specifically proposed by
>> > Microsoft staff[1] as a solution for users who wish to build modern
>> > programs for MSVC versions which do not support modern C.
>> >
>> > As such, we can assume that Git can be safely compiled with C99 or C11
>> > support on all operating systems which receive security support, and
>> > even some which do not.  Our CI confirms that this series passes all
>> > tests.  Let's introduce a test balloon which checks for this support and
>> > fails with an error message if it is absent.
>> 
>> I do not have much against adopting nicer C99 language features in
>> principle, but I hope that we are not becoming too Linux centric
>> with "other than Linux, as long as Windows is OK in some form,
>> everything is peachy" mentality.
>
> It's definitely not my goal to exclude Windows here.  I'm pretty sure
> every major Unix platform will handle this fine, and an up to date
> MSVC will also handle this fine.
>
> Because compiling Git for Windows is a lot of work (not due to any
> failing of that project or its members, just the fact that it requires a
> lot of components to be assembled, including a full POSIX environment),
> it's not very likely we're going to see a lot of people doing it, since
> almost all Windows users are going to be using the regular releases.
> It's also likely that they're going to be using some automated CI system
> which will likely support a recent version of the compiler.
>
> However, we have in the past heard screaming from people who want to
> support old versions of Windows, so my point here is that there are
> options if they can't use MSVC for any reason and those options are
> easy, accessible, and free of charge.  I should point out that we
> already require people on non-Linux Unix systems to install GNU make and
> possibly also a shell (if theirs doesn't support the local keyword), so
> installing suitable tooling to build Git isn't without precedent.

Windows does not need me to worry about them---they can fend for themselves. I cannot tell if the original discussion behind the patch considered the current situation in non-mac BSD land (which I am not familiar with), or even less common platforms like NonStop.

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Message 11 of 32 in “Add a test balloon for C99”
  1. 0/1 Add a test balloon for C99brian m. carlson, Nov 14, 2021
  2. 1/1 git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 supportbrian m. carlson, Nov 14, 2021
  3. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 15, 2021
  4. brian m. carlsonNov 15, 2021
  5. Eric SunshineNov 15, 2021
  6. brian m. carlsonNov 16, 2021
  7. Johannes SchindelinNov 22, 2021
  8. brian m. carlsonNov 14, 2021
  9. Junio C HamanoNov 15, 2021
  10. brian m. carlsonNov 15, 2021
  11. Junio C HamanoNov 16, 2021
  12. brian m. carlsonNov 17, 2021
  13. 0/1 Add a test balloon for C99 supportbrian m. carlson, Nov 16, 2021
  14. 1/1 git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 supportbrian m. carlson, Nov 16, 2021
  15. Jeff KingNov 16, 2021
  16. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 16, 2021
  17. Jeff KingNov 16, 2021
  18. brian m. carlsonNov 17, 2021
  19. Jeff KingNov 17, 2021
  20. brian m. carlsonNov 17, 2021
  21. Carlo ArenasNov 17, 2021
  22. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonNov 18, 2021
  23. Junio C HamanoNov 18, 2021
  24. Junio C HamanoNov 17, 2021
  25. Phillip WoodNov 16, 2021
  26. brian m. carlsonNov 17, 2021
  27. Jeff KingNov 17, 2021
  28. Microsoft's C language policy (was: [PATCH 0/1] Add a test balloon for C99)Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Nov 30, 2021
  29. brian m. carlsonNov 30, 2021
  30. 0/1 Add a test balloon for C99 supportbrian m. carlson, Dec 1, 2021
  31. 1/1 git-compat-util: add a test balloon for C99 supportbrian m. carlson, Dec 1, 2021
  32. Johannes SchindelinDec 2, 2021

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