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Re: [PATCH 05/21] i18n: sequencer: mark entire sentences for translation

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
May 23, 2016, 00:44 UTC
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Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason <avarab@gmail.com> writes:
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> For what it's worth I agree with you and disagree with Eric here and
> Junio in the "[PATCH 03/21] i18n: advice: internationalize message for
> conflicts" thread.
>
> Of course there's a trade-off in source code verbosity when you have
> to change every occurance of (pseudocode):
>
>     "our %s failed" # %s can be revert or merge
>
> to:
>
>     if (action == "merge")
>         gettext("our merge failed")
>     elsif (action == "revert")
>         gettext("our revert failed")
>
> But forcing the translator to turn every such occurrence that flows
> naturally in English into "the '%s' command failed" leads to a worse
> translation.
>
> For example, if I ever get around to doing the Icelandic translation
> which I've had on my backlog I might translate something like this:
> ...
> I.e. even though you might be running "git merge" or "git revert" the
> UI is talking about those terms in the translated using native terms
> for the action of merging or reverting, but referring to the literal
> command names in English.
> ...
> It just doesn't flow as well, and leads to a more verbose translation.

OK. I couldn't judge your example in Icelandic, but I have enough trust in you to believe your conclusion ;-).

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> Now instead of referring to the translated verb I'd already
> established I have to just refer to literal command names.
>
> Both this change and the change you submitted in
> <1463585274-9027-4-git-send-email-vascomalmeida@sapo.pt> and Junio
> didn't like in <xmqqd1ojqciz.fsf@gitster.mtv.corp.google.com> are
> actual examples of cases where if I was (finally getting of my ass to)
> doing the Icelandic translation I'd take advantage of this.
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Message 13 of 42 in “i18n and tests updates”
  1. 00/21 i18n and tests updatesVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  2. 01/21 i18n: builtin/remote.c: fix mark for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  3. 02/21 i18n: advice: mark string about detached head for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  4. 03/21 i18n: advice: internationalize message for conflictsVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  5. Eric SunshineMay 18, 2016
  6. Vasco AlmeidaMay 18, 2016
  7. Junio C HamanoMay 18, 2016
  8. 04/21 i18n: transport: mark strings for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  9. 05/21 i18n: sequencer: mark entire sentences for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  10. Eric SunshineMay 18, 2016
  11. Vasco AlmeidaMay 18, 2016
  12. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 21, 2016
  13. Junio C HamanoMay 23, 2016
  14. Eric SunshineMay 23, 2016
  15. 06/21 i18n: sequencer: mark string for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  16. 07/21 i18n: merge-octopus: mark messages for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  17. 08/21 merge-octupus: use die shell function from git-sh-setup.shVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  18. 09/21 i18n: rebase: fix marked string to use eval_gettext variantVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  19. 10/21 i18n: rebase: mark placeholder for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  20. 11/21 i18n: bisect: simplify error message for i18nVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  21. 12/21 t6030: update to use test_i18ncmpVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  22. 13/21 i18n: git-sh-setup.sh: mark strings for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  23. 14/21 i18n: rebase-interactive: mark strings for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  24. Eric SunshineMay 19, 2016
  25. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonMay 21, 2016
  26. Vasco AlmeidaMay 21, 2016
  27. 15/21 i18n: rebase-interactive: mark here-doc strings for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  28. 16/21 i18n: rebase-interactive: mark comments of squash for translationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  29. 17/21 tests: use test_i18n* functions to suppress false positivesVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  30. 18/21 tests: unpack-trees: update to use test_i18n* functionsVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  31. 19/21 t9003: become resilient to GETTEXT_POISONVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  32. Eric SunshineMay 19, 2016
  33. Vasco AlmeidaMay 19, 2016
  34. Eric SunshineMay 20, 2016
  35. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2016
  36. Eric SunshineMay 20, 2016
  37. Vasco AlmeidaMay 20, 2016
  38. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2016
  39. Junio C HamanoMay 20, 2016
  40. Vasco AlmeidaMay 20, 2016
  41. 20/21 t4153: fix negated test_i18ngrep callVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016
  42. 21/21 t5523: use test_i18ngrep for negationVasco Almeida, May 18, 2016

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