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Re: [PATCH v2] push: fix --force-if-includes when remote-tracking ref has no reflog

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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Sep 8, 2026, 03:47 UTC
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Aleksei Sviridkin <f@lex.la> writes:
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> Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com> writes:
>> Which suggests to me that gc.reflogExpire or 90 days ago would be a
>> lot more reasonable than year 1970 to use as a fallback cutoff date.
>
> Entries older than 90 days do survive. The reflog expires when gc or
> "git reflog expire" runs, not on its own, so I could build a branch
> whose matching reflog entry is 200 days old and still sitting there.
It is only true for those who conciously disable the gc, isn't it?

It all depends on how hard it is to recover from such a failure, and it may not even matter in practice what value we set, as it will become a non-issue once they pull from there or push into there even once.

But in the context of discussing what the fallback default ought to be, I somehow sounds more like a poor excuse rather than a sensible argument. Doesn't it force a behaviour that would happen only to those people who deliberately choose to ignore cutoff and who are willing to spend cycles to go back to the beginning of history, to all users, including those who do not make such customization, no?

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  1. push: fix --force-if-includes when remote-tracking ref has no reflogAleksei Sviridkin, Sep 3, 2026
  2. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2026
  3. Aleksei SviridkinSep 3, 2026
  4. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2026
  5. Aleksei SviridkinSep 3, 2026
  6. Kristoffer HaugsbakkSep 4, 2026
  7. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2026
  8. Aleksei SviridkinSep 5, 2026
  9. Kristoffer HaugsbakkSep 6, 2026
  10. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2026
  11. Thomas BachemSep 7, 2026
  12. Weijie YuanSep 7, 2026
  13. push: fix --force-if-includes when remote-tracking ref has no reflogAleksei Sviridkin, Sep 4, 2026
  14. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2026
  15. Junio C HamanoSep 6, 2026
  16. Aleksei SviridkinSep 6, 2026
  17. Junio C HamanoSep 8, 2026
  18. Aleksei SviridkinSep 9, 2026
  19. Junio C HamanoSep 10, 2026
  20. Aleksei SviridkinSep 10, 2026
  21. Tyler CiprianiSep 25, 2026
  22. Junio C HamanoSep 25, 2026
  23. push: fix --force-if-includes when remote-tracking ref has no reflogAleksei Sviridkin, Sep 5, 2026
  24. Tyler CiprianiSep 29, 2026
  25. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2026
  26. push: fix --force-if-includes when remote-tracking ref has no reflogAleksei Sviridkin, Sep 29, 2026
  27. Junio C HamanoSep 29, 2026

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