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Re: [PATCH v2 02/14] pull: improve default warning

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Date
Dec 7, 2020, 07:26 UTC
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Elijah Newren <newren@gmail.com> writes:
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>>   Pulling without specifying how to reconcile divergent branches is discouraged;
>>   you need to specify if you want a merge, a rebase, or a fast-forward.
>>   You can squelch this message by running one of the following commands:
>>
>>     git config pull.rebase false  # merge (the default strategy)
>>     git config pull.rebase true   # rebase
>>     git config pull.ff only       # fast-forward only
>>
>>   You can replace "git config" with "git config --global" to set a default
>>   preference for all repositories.
>>   If unsure, run "git pull --merge".
>>   Read "git pull --help" for more information.
>>
>> This warning says:
>>
>> 1. There's 3 options: merge, rebase, fast-forward
>> 2. merge is the default strategy
>> 3. If unsure, specify --merge (the default strategy)
>>
>> So taken altogether it does say what is the default strategy.
>
> We don't need to take them together.  #2 by itself states the default
> strategy.  I don't see why defending #3 as being for the purpose of
> documenting the default strategy is helpful, since it doesn't do that.
Would it work if the line were
	If unsure, run "git -c pull.rebase=false pull".
then?

The reason why I bring this up is because the first part only talks about the choices in the terms of configuration variables, and for those who are afraid of committing, there is no easy way, unless they know the "git -c" single-shot mechanism, to "go ahead with one choice in an experimental basis to see if that is what they want", and "specify --merge" does not click well with "pull.rebase=false" that is given in the first part. "git pull --no-rebase" may also work better than "git pull --merge" from that point of view, though.

But see below.
>> Do you think the crew should disregard the passenger's volition and
>> force him to pay attention to the safety demonstration?

An example that is irrelevant. Passengers who sit on the aisle side and clutter the floor with their luggages can pose public hazard, and it is quite sensible for crews to remove them from the plane.

A team member who runs "pull --[no-]rebase" pushes the result, which may be a new history in a wrong shape, back to the shared repository probably falls into a different category. ... Or perhaps in the same public hazard category?

> Useful link there.  Based on his comments, we may want to make
> --ff-only, --merge, and --rebase all be mutually exclusive and result
> in an error message if more than one is specified at the command line.

I hope "his comment" does not refer to what I said. Redefining the semantics of --ff-only (but not --ff=no and friends) to make it mutually incompatible with merge/rebase was what Felipe wanted to do, not me.

FWIW, I see the general direction as
 - When the history you are pulling is not a descendant of what you
   have on your current branch, you must show your preference
   between merging their history into yours or rebasing your history
   onto theirs.
 - In such a case, we error out, with an error message telling them
   that they must tell us which one they want in this invocation
   (e.g. with "--rebase" or "--no-rebase").  We further tell them
   that pull.rebase can be used to record their preference, if they
   almost always use the same.
	Side note: I earlier said "see below" to refer to this.  I
	think the message should offer what they can do right now
	with command line option first, and then give an option to
	configure.  IOW, the message quoted in the beginning of this
	response gives information in a wrong order.  Also,
	"discouraged" is misleading, isn't it?  When we give this
	message, we refuse to proceed until the user specifies.
	Another thing to consider is that pull.ff=only (and
	--ff-only) may be wrong choice to offer in the error message
	quoted above, if one of the objectives is to reduce the
	"annoying" message that tells the user that they must
	choose.  By definition, we do not give the message when our
	side do not have our own development, so "I could run 'pull
	--ff-only'" is a unusable knowledge to those who see the
	message and want to get out of the situation.
 - But when the history being pulled is a descendant of the current
   branch, and the user does not give us preference between merge
   and rebase (either from the command line or with configuration),
   there is no need to give such an error message---if you do not
   have your own development, we can just fast-forward the current
   branch to what we fetched from the other side.  This does not
   happen with the current system, which is what we want to fix.
 - Also when the history from the other side is a descedant and the
   user has preference, either to rebase or to merge, either from
   the command line or with configuration, we can fast-forward the
   current branch to their tip, but there are wrinkles:
   . when --ff=no is given and the choice is to merge (not rebase),
     we must create an extra merge commit.
   . when the choice is to rebase, by definition, rebasing what you
     have on top of theirs in this case is the same as fast-forwarding
     the current branch to theirs, because "what you have" is an
     empty set.
   . I am not sure how "pull --rebase --ff=no" should interact if we
     don't have our own development.  Rebasing our work on top of
     theirs is philosophically incompatible with marking where the
     side branch begins and ends with an extra commit, so it either
     should be rejected when the command line and configuration is
     parsed (i.e. regardless of the shape of the history we have at
     hand), or --ff=no gets silently ignored when --rebase is given.
     I haven't thought this one through.
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Message 21 of 79 in “pull: default warning improvements”
  1. 00/14 pull: default warning improvementsFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  2. 03/14 pull: refactor fast-forward checkFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  3. 04/14 pull: cleanup autostash checkFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  4. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  5. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  6. Elijah NewrenDec 5, 2020
  7. 01/14 doc: pull: explain what is a fast-forwardFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  8. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  9. Jacob KellerDec 5, 2020
  10. 02/14 pull: improve default warningFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  11. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  12. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  13. Elijah NewrenDec 5, 2020
  14. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  15. Chris TorekDec 5, 2020
  16. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  17. Elijah NewrenDec 5, 2020
  18. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  19. Elijah NewrenDec 6, 2020
  20. Felipe ContrerasDec 6, 2020
  21. Junio C HamanoDec 7, 2020
  22. Felipe ContrerasDec 7, 2020
  23. Junio C HamanoDec 7, 2020
  24. Felipe ContrerasDec 7, 2020
  25. Junio C HamanoDec 7, 2020
  26. Felipe ContrerasDec 7, 2020
  27. Jacob KellerDec 7, 2020
  28. Junio C HamanoDec 8, 2020
  29. Felipe ContrerasDec 8, 2020
  30. Junio C HamanoDec 8, 2020
  31. Felipe ContrerasDec 9, 2020
  32. Elijah NewrenDec 9, 2020
  33. Felipe ContrerasDec 10, 2020
  34. Junio C HamanoDec 10, 2020
  35. Felipe ContrerasDec 10, 2020
  36. Felipe ContrerasDec 10, 2020
  37. Junio C HamanoDec 11, 2020
  38. Felipe ContrerasDec 11, 2020
  39. Junio C HamanoDec 14, 2020
  40. Felipe ContrerasDec 14, 2020
  41. Junio C HamanoDec 14, 2020
  42. Felipe ContrerasDec 15, 2020
  43. Jeff KingDec 15, 2020
  44. Felipe ContrerasDec 15, 2020
  45. Junio C HamanoDec 15, 2020
  46. Felipe ContrerasDec 15, 2020
  47. Felipe ContrerasDec 7, 2020
  48. 06/14 pull: move default warningFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  49. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  50. Felipe ContrerasDec 4, 2020
  51. 05/14 pull: trivial cleanupFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  52. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  53. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  54. 08/14 pull: trivial whitespace style fixFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  55. 10/14 pull: add proper error with --ff-onlyFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  56. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  57. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  58. 12/14 pull: show warning with --ffFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  59. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  60. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  61. 14/14 test: pull-options: revert unnecessary changesFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  62. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  63. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  64. 13/14 test: merge-pull-config: trivial cleanupFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  65. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  66. 11/14 tentative: pull: change the semantics of --ff-onlyFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  67. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  68. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  69. experiment: pull: change --ff-only and default modeFelipe Contreras, Dec 5, 2020
  70. Elijah NewrenDec 5, 2020
  71. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  72. Junio C HamanoDec 7, 2020
  73. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  74. 07/14 pull: display default warning only when non-ffFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  75. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  76. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020
  77. 09/14 pull: introduce --merge optionFelipe Contreras, Dec 4, 2020
  78. Elijah NewrenDec 4, 2020
  79. Felipe ContrerasDec 5, 2020

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