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Re: [PATCH v2 1/8] environment: move "trust_ctime" into `struct repo_config_values`

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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Apr 14, 2026, 17:15 UTC
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Phillip Wood <phillip.wood123@gmail.com> writes:
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> On 14/04/2026 09:52, Karthik Nayak wrote:
> ...
>> Nit: I was hoping you'd also shed light on why this can go into
>> `repo_config_values()`. Does it need to be eagerly parsed? If so, why?
>
> If trust_ctime was lazily parsed where it is used we'd end up dying in 
> match_stat_data() which would be quite unexpected, make it very hard to 
> reason about the code, and hamper the libification efforts. I'd much 
> rather we put the onus on patch authors to justify any conversion from 
> eager parsing to lazy parsing rather than forcing them to justify 
> continuing to parse settings eagerly.
>
> Thanks
>
> Phillip

I too often get confused while looking at these "global static variables holding parsed configuration values are bad, let's move it elsewhere" patches between the on-demand and upfront parsing.

I agree that what has traditionally been parsed upfront are mostly fundamental things (e.g., in core.* namespace) that is better parsed upfront, and what has been parsed on-demand are often very operation specific thing whose misspelt values do not matter when we are not running that specific operation, so it is better parsed on-demand. There may be exceptions and some variables that the current code parses upfront might be better parsed on-demand and vice versa, but the default for these rewrite effort ought to be to keep the existing semantics unless there is a good justification for changing it.

Thanks for injecting a dose of sanity so clearly.
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  1. 0/8 repo_config_values: migrate more globalsOlamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  2. 1/8 environment: move "trust_ctime" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  3. Karthik NayakApr 14, 2026
  4. Phillip WoodApr 14, 2026
  5. Junio C HamanoApr 14, 2026
  6. Karthik NayakApr 15, 2026
  7. Junio C HamanoApr 15, 2026
  8. Karthik NayakApr 15, 2026
  9. 2/8 environment: move "check_stat" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  10. Karthik NayakApr 14, 2026
  11. 3/8 environment: move `zlib_compression_level` into repo_config_valuesOlamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  12. Karthik NayakApr 14, 2026
  13. Bello OlamideApr 14, 2026
  14. 4/8 environment: move "pack_compression_level" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  15. 5/8 environment: move "precomposed_unicode" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  16. Karthik NayakApr 14, 2026
  17. 6/8 env: move "core_sparse_checkout_cone" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  18. 7/8 env: put "sparse_expect_files_outside_of_patterns" in `repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  19. 8/8 env: move "warn_on_object_refname_ambiguity" into `repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Mar 24, 2026
  20. Karthik NayakApr 14, 2026
  21. Bello OlamideApr 14, 2026
  22. 0/8 repo_config_values: migrate more globalsOlamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  23. 1/8 Revert "compat/posix: introduce writev(3p) wrapper"Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  24. 2/8 rust: we are way beyond 2.53Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  25. 3/8 doc: am: revert Message-ID trailer claimOlamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  26. 4/8 doc: am: correct to full --no-message-idOlamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  27. 5/8 CI: bump actions/checkout from 4 to 5 for rust-analysis jobOlamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  28. 6/8 gitglossary: fix indentation of sub-listsOlamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  29. 7/8 Hopefully the final tweak before -rc2Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  30. 8/8 Git 2.54-rc2Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  31. Bello OlamideApr 23, 2026
  32. 0/8 repo_config_values: migrate more globalsOlamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  33. 1/8 environment: move "trust_ctime" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  34. 2/8 environment: move "check_stat" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  35. 3/8 environment: move `zlib_compression_level` into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 2, 2026
  37. Patrick SteinhardtJun 2, 2026
  38. Christian CouderJun 2, 2026
  39. Junio C HamanoJun 2, 2026
  40. 4/8 environment: move "pack_compression_level" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  41. 5/8 environment: move "precomposed_unicode" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  42. Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2026
  43. 6/8 environment: move "core_sparse_checkout_cone" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  44. 7/8 environment: move "sparse_expect_files_outside_of_patterns" into `repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  45. 8/8 environment: move "warn_on_object_refname_ambiguity" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 1, 2026
  46. Junio C HamanoJun 2, 2026
  47. 0/8 repo_config_values: migrate more globals variablesOlamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  48. 1/8 environment: move "trust_ctime" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  49. 2/8 environment: move "check_stat" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  50. 3/8 environment: move `zlib_compression_level` into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  51. 4/8 environment: move "pack_compression_level" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  52. 5/8 environment: move "precomposed_unicode" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  53. 6/8 environment: move "core_sparse_checkout_cone" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  54. 7/8 environment: move "sparse_expect_files_outside_of_patterns" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  55. 8/8 environment: move "warn_on_object_refname_ambiguity" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Jun 2, 2026
  56. 0/8 environment: move core config globals into repo_config_valuesOlamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  57. 1/8 environment: move "trust_ctime" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  58. Tian YuchenMay 21, 2026
  59. Bello OlamideJun 1, 2026
  60. 2/8 environment: move "check_stat" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  61. 3/8 environment: move `zlib_compression_level` into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  62. 4/8 environment: move "pack_compression_level" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  63. 5/8 environment: move "precomposed_unicode" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  64. Tian YuchenMay 15, 2026
  65. 6/8 env: move "core_sparse_checkout_cone" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  66. 7/8 env: move "sparse_expect_files_outside_of_patterns" into `repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  67. 8/8 env: move "warn_on_object_refname_ambiguity" into `struct repo_config_values`Olamide Caleb Bello, Apr 23, 2026
  68. Junio C HamanoApr 26, 2026
  69. Bello OlamideApr 26, 2026
  70. Junio C HamanoMay 11, 2026
  71. Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2026
  72. Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2026

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