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Re: [PATCH 2/3] config: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)

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Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
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May 2, 2025, 20:05 UTC
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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
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> I can see why it may be useful to allow for non-existent paths. But I
> wonder whether we really should be skipping over empty files, as well,
> as it may be assuming too much about the semantics of a given config
> key. In other words, are we reasonably sure that there won't ever be a
> usecase where you may want to specify an optional and empty file? And
> are there any use cases where an empty file should be ignored?

If somebody goes back to the original discussion that happened a few years before the patches were originally written, they might find a use case where it is more convenient to ignore an empty file, but it is an old patch series, so I do not remember the details.

I would not be surprised if the design decision for an empty blob was done without any deep thought or motivationg use case. After all, this was "I had nothing better to do, so wrote these out of boredom" patchset, as its cover letter said.

If somebody wants to carry these patches forward (which I am hoping because there were a few people who expressed interest recently, and because I am not all that interested, certainly not more than those who wanted to have this feature), I think that the right approach is to extend the system by taking advantage of the syntax that was designed to be extensible. In addition to ":(optional)", we could add different variants like ":(optional,ignore-empty)" with desired semantics, for example.

Thanks.
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Message 17 of 47 in “blame: Skip missing ignore-revs file”
  1. 0/1 blame: Skip missing ignore-revs fileNoah Pendleton, Aug 7, 2021
  2. Junio C HamanoAug 7, 2021
  3. Noah PendletonAug 7, 2021
  4. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2021
  5. Junio C HamanoAug 8, 2021
  6. Noah PendletonAug 8, 2021
  7. Junio C HamanoAug 9, 2021
  8. 0/3 specifying a file that can optionally existJunio C Hamano, Oct 14, 2024
  9. 1/3 t7500: make each piece more independentJunio C Hamano, Oct 14, 2024
  10. 2/3 config: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)Junio C Hamano, Oct 14, 2024
  11. 3/3 parseopt: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)Junio C Hamano, Oct 14, 2024
  12. 0/3 specifying a file that can optionally existJunio C Hamano, May 1, 2025
  13. 1/3 t7500: make each piece more independentJunio C Hamano, May 1, 2025
  14. 2/3 config: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)Junio C Hamano, May 1, 2025
  15. Patrick SteinhardtMay 2, 2025
  16. Phillip WoodMay 2, 2025
  17. Junio C HamanoMay 2, 2025
  18. 3/3 parseopt: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)Junio C Hamano, May 1, 2025
  19. 0/3 Support :(optional) filepathsD. Ben Knoble, Sep 28, 2025
  20. 1/3 t7500: make each piece more independentD. Ben Knoble, Sep 28, 2025
  21. 2/3 config: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)D. Ben Knoble, Sep 28, 2025
  22. Phillip WoodSep 30, 2025
  23. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2025
  24. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2025
  25. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2025
  26. Junio C HamanoOct 6, 2025
  27. Kristoffer HaugsbakkOct 7, 2025
  28. Junio C HamanoOct 7, 2025
  29. D. Ben KnobleNov 2, 2025
  30. 3/3 parseopt: values of pathname type can be prefixed with :(optional)D. Ben Knoble, Sep 28, 2025
  31. Phillip WoodSep 30, 2025
  32. D. Ben KnobleNov 2, 2025
  33. Eric SunshineNov 3, 2025
  34. D. Ben KnobleNov 4, 2025
  35. Junio C HamanoSep 28, 2025
  36. Ben KnobleSep 29, 2025
  37. t7500: fix tests with absolute path following ":(optional)" on WindowsJohannes Sixt, Oct 20, 2025
  38. Ben KnobleOct 20, 2025
  39. Johannes SixtOct 20, 2025
  40. Junio C HamanoOct 20, 2025
  41. D. Ben KnobleOct 20, 2025
  42. D. Ben KnobleOct 20, 2025
  43. Eric SunshineOct 20, 2025
  44. Junio C HamanoOct 20, 2025
  45. Johannes SixtOct 20, 2025
  46. Thranur AndulMar 4, 2022
  47. blame: add config `blame.ignoreRevsFileIsOptional`Noah Pendleton, Aug 8, 2021

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