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Re: [PATCH v10.1 7/7] bisect: allow any terms set by user

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Matthieu Moy <matthieu.moy@grenoble-inp.fr>
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Jun 29, 2015, 09:32 UTC
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Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com> writes:
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> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Matthieu Moy
>
>> As a user, when I
>> discovered "git bisect", I was actually surprised that it expected one
>> particular order between good and bad. I would have expected to be able
>> to say "this is good, this is bad, tell me where it changed" without
>> having an idea of who's good and who's bad.
>
> Maybe, but it's not how it has been developed.

... but it's how it would behave if we had this guessing feature. The user does not have to care whether we internally need "good is an ancestor of bad" if we can provide a user-interface which does not need that.

I find it particularly frustrating that we issue the message:
  "The merge base %s is bad.\n"
  "This means the bug has been fixed "
  "between %s and [%s].\n"

bisect is all about finding the commit where a property has changed, and here it stops, saying "I know it's between A and B, but I won't go further".

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>> In particular when bisecting from two branches, the user knows that
>> branch A is good, and branch B is bad, but does not necessarily know
>> whether it's a regression in B or a
>> fix in A. The fact that bisect can find out should be just "normal" from
>> the user point of view. There's no mistake involved, nothing to fix, and
>> nothing that went wrong.
>
> Well in this case, it's possible that the merge base is bad and what
> the user is interested in is the first bad commit that was commited
> before the merge base. We just don't know, in the case the merge base
> is bad, what is more interesting for the user.

The question asked by the user is "X is good, Y is bad, tell me where exactly it changed". We can't know for sure what is "interesting" for the user, but we can answer his question anyway.

Similarly, there can be several commits that introduce the same regression (this may happen if you cherry picked the guilty commit from branch A to branch B, and then merged A and B, or if you broke, fixed, and then broke again). bisect finds one transition from good to bad, but not all. It may or may not be the one the user wanted, but we can't know.

>> I think I prefer "term" to "name".
>
> Ok with that. I agree that it would be more consistent to have a "git
> bisect terms" and "--term-{old,new,bad,good}".
OK, I've applied it.
-- 
Matthieu Moy
http://www-verimag.imag.fr/~moy/
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  1. 0/7 bisect termsMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  2. 1/7 bisect: correction of typoMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  3. 2/7 Documentation/bisect: move getting help section to the endMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  4. 3/7 Documentation/bisect: revise overall contentMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  5. 4/7 bisect: replace hardcoded "bad|good" by variablesMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  6. 5/7 bisect: simplify the addition of new bisect termsMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  7. Christian CouderJun 26, 2015
  8. 5/7 bisect: simplify the addition of new bisect termsMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  9. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2015
  10. Matthieu MoyJun 26, 2015
  11. 6/7 bisect: add the terms old/newMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  12. 7/7 bisect: allow any terms set by userMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2015
  14. 7/7 bisect: allow any terms set by userMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  15. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2015
  16. Christian CouderJun 27, 2015
  17. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2015
  18. Christian CouderJun 27, 2015
  19. Matthieu MoyJun 27, 2015
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2015
  21. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
  22. Junio C HamanoJun 29, 2015
  23. Michael HaggertyJun 28, 2015
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  31. Christian CouderJun 29, 2015
  32. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
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  37. Christian CouderJun 26, 2015
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