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Re: [PATCH v10.1 7/7] bisect: allow any terms set by user

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Christian Couder <christian.couder@gmail.com>
Date
Jun 29, 2015, 05:08 UTC
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On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
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> On 06/28/2015 08:15 AM, Junio C Hamano wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Michael Haggerty <mhagger@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to remind everybody of my old claim that it would be
>>> possible to teach `git bisect` to infer by itself which term means
>>> "older" and which term means "newer":
>>>
>>>     http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/244036
>>
>> But then one mistake at the beginning and the user will be on a wrong
>> track during the whole bisect session, no? Unless you make absolutely
>> clear when making the "intelligent" decision what Git inferred, that is.
>
> Definitely, `git bisect` should tell the user what it inferred.
>
>> For something complex like bisect, I highly suspect that a tool that is
>> more intelligent than the end users (more precisely, a tool that it thinks
>> it is more intelligent) would hurt them more than it helps them.
>
> This isn't about making bisect "more intelligent than the end users". It
> is about not forcing the user cumbersomely to spell out redundant
> information because the tool is too stupid.
>
> If I mark one commit "broken" and another commit "fixed", and the
> "broken" commit is an ancestor of the "fixed" commit, then it is pretty
> obvious that I am looking for the commit that caused the transition
> "broken" -> "fixed". The same if I mark one commit "xyzzy" and the other
> one "plugh".
>
> I understand that the user might make a mistake when marking the initial
> commits, but as soon as bisect says
>
>     Commit <sha1-abbrev> is an ancestor of <sha1-abbrev>, so I
>     will look for the commit that caused the transition from
>     "xyzzy" to "plugh".
>
> then I hope the user will notice and correct her/his mistake.

This looks fragile to me. Unfortunately many users will probably not read it and continue, and then spend a lot of time later trying to understand what went wrong, not remembering about the message at all.

The message looks like an informative message. At least we should add something like "Please check that it is what you want to do and abort with 'git bisect reset' if it is not."

> For example, a session could be started with
>
>     git bisect start --mark=broken <committish> --mark=fixed <committish>
This look nearly the same as:

git bisect start --name-old=broken --broken=<committish> --name-new=fixed --fixed=<committish>

except that it looks safer and more backward compatible to me with --name-old and --name-new.

By the way we could use "mark" or "term" instead of "name" in the option name (like --mark-old or --term-old) and in the code too if it looks clearer.

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> and from then on
>
>     git bisect broken
>     git bisect fixed
>
> Or, if the user doesn't want to specify both endpoints on the `start` line,
>
>     git bisect start
>     git bisect --mark=broken [<committish>]
>     git bisect --mark=fixed [<committish>]
We could do that too with:
     git bisect start
     git bisect --name-old=broken broken [<committish>]
     git bisect --name-new=fixed fixed [<committish>]
and/or:
     git bisect start
     git bisect --name-old=broken --broken=[<committish>]
     git bisect --name-new=fixed --fixed=[<committish>]
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Message 31 of 38 in “bisect terms”
  1. 0/7 bisect termsMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  2. 1/7 bisect: correction of typoMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  3. 2/7 Documentation/bisect: move getting help section to the endMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  4. 3/7 Documentation/bisect: revise overall contentMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  5. 4/7 bisect: replace hardcoded "bad|good" by variablesMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  6. 5/7 bisect: simplify the addition of new bisect termsMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  7. Christian CouderJun 26, 2015
  8. 5/7 bisect: simplify the addition of new bisect termsMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  9. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2015
  10. Matthieu MoyJun 26, 2015
  11. 6/7 bisect: add the terms old/newMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  12. 7/7 bisect: allow any terms set by userMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  13. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2015
  14. 7/7 bisect: allow any terms set by userMatthieu Moy, Jun 26, 2015
  15. Junio C HamanoJun 26, 2015
  16. Christian CouderJun 27, 2015
  17. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2015
  18. Christian CouderJun 27, 2015
  19. Matthieu MoyJun 27, 2015
  20. Junio C HamanoJun 27, 2015
  21. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
  22. Junio C HamanoJun 29, 2015
  23. Michael HaggertyJun 28, 2015
  24. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2015
  25. Michael HaggertyJun 28, 2015
  26. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2015
  27. Michael HaggertyJun 28, 2015
  28. Junio C HamanoJun 28, 2015
  29. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
  30. Junio C HamanoJun 29, 2015
  31. Christian CouderJun 29, 2015
  32. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
  33. Christian CouderJun 29, 2015
  34. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
  35. Christian CouderJun 29, 2015
  36. Matthieu MoyJun 29, 2015
  37. Christian CouderJun 26, 2015
  38. Matthieu MoyJun 26, 2015

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