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Re: Newton-Raphson, was Re: Performance issue of 'git branch'

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Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at>
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Jul 23, 2009, 23:50 UTC
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On Fri, 24 Jul 2009, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> Think about it, absent any further information than "it is a hash, i.e.
> distributed pretty equally in _any_ byte", even subsets of a sorted list
> will me more or less linear.  And assuming that they are linear is _still_
> your best bet.

The even distribution of the lower-order bytes is irrelevant. We're looking at the top 20-ish bits for a pack with a million-ish objects. The more you zoom in the less linear a sorted list of hashes will be, so assuming linearity at all scales is wrong. It's a bit like fractal mountains.

> There is no way to achieve [O(1) seeks], best thing you can hope for is
> _expected_ O(1) (e.g. with a hashmap, with exponential worst case).

Of course it's expected. However the worst case is nowhere near exponential: it's linear because the second-order search is a linear pagewise scan. But I think in practice, the larger the pack the more that the randomization of the hash function will smooth out performance oddities. (Sorry, I don't know enough statistics to be able to say what the expected error of the linear interpolation is, though I expect it's a fairly simple formula.) For small packs the number of seeks is 1 anyway.

Tony.
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