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Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add keyword unexpansion support to convert.c

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Nicolas Pitre <nico@cam.org>
Date
Apr 18, 2007, 15:10 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2007, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> 
> > So what?
> > 
> > We provide a rope with proper caveat emptor.  Up to others to hang 
> > themselves with it if they so desire.  It is not our problem anymore.
> 
> The people will complain. On this list. And I have to check the mails 
> before deleting, because the Subject: does not say "I just took the rope, 
> ignored your caveat emptor, and now I am dead. What should I do now?".

Well... in the case of keyword expansion (since this is really the contentious case here), with such a _generic_ facility to implement external filters, people will at least have the opportunity to try it. Sure they might complain that it doesn't work well, but 1) it is much easier to *understand* why it doesn't work well after experimenting with it, and 2) some people *will* be perfectly happy with something that doesn't work well but happens to just work in their own particular case.

And because it now becomes a case by case issue it is much easier for us to simply provide a generic mechanism and let people figure out by themselves what works and what doesn't work instead of having philosophical discussions on the merits of keyword expansions on the list.

And because people _will_ complain *anyway*, it might lead to more productive discussion if those who complain had the chance to realize what the issues really are by experience if theoretic demonstrations alone doesn't convey the problem fully.

Nicolas
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  1. 2/2 Add keyword unexpansion support to convert.cAndy Parkins, Apr 17, 2007
  2. Junio C HamanoApr 17, 2007
  3. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  4. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  5. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  6. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  7. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  8. Nicolas PitreApr 17, 2007
  9. David LangApr 17, 2007
  10. Nicolas PitreApr 17, 2007
  11. David LangApr 17, 2007
  12. Nicolas PitreApr 17, 2007
  13. David LangApr 17, 2007
  14. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  15. Junio C HamanoApr 17, 2007
  16. Nicolas PitreApr 18, 2007
  17. Junio C HamanoApr 18, 2007
  18. Nicolas PitreApr 18, 2007
  19. Johannes SchindelinApr 18, 2007
  20. Nicolas PitreApr 18, 2007
  21. Johannes SchindelinApr 19, 2007
  22. David LangApr 21, 2007
  23. Junio C HamanoApr 21, 2007
  24. Nicolas PitreApr 21, 2007
  25. David LangApr 21, 2007
  26. Rogan DawesApr 18, 2007
  27. Linus TorvaldsApr 18, 2007
  28. Nicolas PitreApr 18, 2007
  29. Rogan DawesApr 18, 2007
  30. Nicolas PitreApr 18, 2007
  31. Rogan DawesApr 18, 2007
  32. Alon ZivApr 18, 2007
  33. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  34. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  35. Add keyword collapse support to convert.cAndy Parkins, Apr 17, 2007
  36. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  37. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  38. Johannes SchindelinApr 18, 2007
  39. Nikolai WeibullApr 20, 2007
  40. Martin LanghoffApr 17, 2007
  41. Junio C HamanoApr 17, 2007
  42. Jakub NarebskiApr 20, 2007
  43. David LangApr 21, 2007
  44. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  45. Johannes SixtApr 17, 2007
  46. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  47. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  48. Rogan DawesApr 17, 2007
  49. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
  50. Rogan DawesApr 17, 2007
  51. Robin H. JohnsonApr 17, 2007
  52. Junio C HamanoApr 18, 2007
  53. J. Bruce FieldsApr 18, 2007
  54. Linus TorvaldsApr 18, 2007
  55. Junio C HamanoApr 18, 2007
  56. Linus TorvaldsApr 18, 2007
  57. Robin H. JohnsonApr 18, 2007
  58. Junio C HamanoApr 18, 2007
  59. Junio C HamanoApr 18, 2007
  60. Robin H. JohnsonApr 18, 2007
  61. Daniel BarkalowApr 18, 2007
  62. Johannes SchindelinApr 18, 2007
  63. Martin LanghoffApr 18, 2007
  64. David KågedalApr 18, 2007
  65. Robin H. JohnsonApr 18, 2007
  66. Matthieu MoyApr 17, 2007

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