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Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add keyword unexpansion support to convert.c

From
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Date
Apr 17, 2007, 18:12 UTC
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0704171107510.5473@woody.linux-foundation.org>
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<200704171803.58940.andyparkins@gmail.com>
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Andy Parkins wrote:
> 
> Why on earth would it not apply?  It's being applied using git-apply, 
> which will unexpand the keywords as it goes - as I keep saying.
So you will never work with anybody outside of git?

What about tar-files when you export the tree? Should they have the expanded version?

> You keep saying these sweepingly general things.  It can be made to 
> work.
No, it CANNOT.

Trust me. There's NO WAY IN HELL it will "work" in any other sense than "limp along and not be usable".

Yes, you can make it "work" if you:
 - make sure that you never _ever_ leave the git environment
   But why do you want keyword expansion then? The whole point is if you 
   have other tools than the git tools that look at a file. Even your svg 
   example was literally about having non-git tools work with the data. 
   What if you ever email the file to somebody else? 
 - you make all git tools explicitly always strip them.
   Again, what's the point again? You add keyword expansion, and then the 
   only tools that you really allow to touch it (except your "print it 
   out" example) will have to remove the keyword expansion just to work.

That's not "work". That's just stupid. Yes, you can make your "print it out" example work, but as alreadyt mentioned, you could have done that some other way, with a simple makefile rule, quite independently (and much better) than the SCM ever did.

		Linus
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  32. Alon ZivApr 18, 2007
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  34. Andy ParkinsApr 17, 2007
  35. Add keyword collapse support to convert.cAndy Parkins, Apr 17, 2007
  36. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
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  38. Johannes SchindelinApr 18, 2007
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  40. Martin LanghoffApr 17, 2007
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  44. Linus TorvaldsApr 17, 2007
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