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Re: pushing for a new hash, was Re: [PATCH 2/3] rebase: Add tests for console output

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Jun 15, 2017, 10:38 UTC
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Hi Ævar,
On Fri, 2 Jun 2017, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 7:54 PM, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Johannes Schindelin wrote:
> >> On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Stefan Beller wrote:
> >
> >>> We had a discussion off list how much of the test suite is in bad
> >>> shape, and "$ git grep ^index" points out a lot of places as well.
> >>
> >> Maybe we should call out a specific month (or even a longer period)
> >> during which we try to push toward that new hash function, and focus
> >> more on those tasks (and on critical bug fixes, if any) than anything
> >> else.
> >
> > Thanks for offering. ;-)
> >
> > Here's a rough list of some useful tasks, in no particular order:
> >
> > 1. bc/object-id: This patch series continues, eliminating assumptions
> >    about the size of object ids by encapsulating them in a struct.
> >    One straightforward way to find code that still needs to be
> >    converted is to grep for "sha" --- often the conversion patches
> >    change function and variable names to refer to oid_ where they used
> >    to use sha1_, making the stragglers easier to spot.
> >
> > 2. Hard-coded object ids in tests: As Stefan hinted, many tests beyond
> >    t00* make assumptions about the exact values of object ids.  That's
> >    bad for maintainability for other reasons beyond the hash function
> >    transition, too.
> >
> >    It should be possible to suss them out by patching git's sha1
> >    routine to use the ones-complement of sha1 (~sha1) instead and
> >    seeing which tests fail.
> 
> I just hacked this up locally.

Would you mind turning that into a patch? I figure this could be a compile-time switch and applied to Git's `master` so that it is easier to find those assumptions, as well as verify fixes on multiple platforms.

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> > 4. When choosing a hash function, people may argue about performance.
> >    It would be useful for run some benchmarks for git (running
> >    the test suite, t/perf tests, etc) using a variety of hash
> >    functions as input to such a discussion.
> 
> To the extent that such benchmarks matter, it seems prudent to heavily
> weigh them in favor of whatever seems to be likely to be the more
> common hash function going forward, since those are likely to get
> faster through future hardware acceleration.
Exactly.

As I just mentioned elsewhere, the cryptographers I talked to expect SHA-256 and SHA3-256 to see the most focus of all hash functions, by far.

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> E.g. Intel announced Goldmont last year which according to one SHA-1
> implementation improved from 9.5 cycles per byte to 2.7 cpb[1]. They
> only have acceleration for SHA-1 and SHA-256[2]
> 
> 1. https://github.com/weidai11/cryptopp/issues/139#issuecomment-264283385
> 
> 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldmont
Thanks for digging that up! Very valuable information.

Ciao, Dscho

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  1. 0/3 Add regression tests for recent rebase -i fixesPhillip Wood, May 31, 2017
  2. 3/3 rebase: Add tests for console output with conflicting stashPhillip Wood, May 31, 2017
  3. 1/3 rebase -i: Add test for reflog messagePhillip Wood, May 31, 2017
  4. Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2017
  5. 2/3 rebase: Add tests for console outputPhillip Wood, May 31, 2017
  6. Phillip WoodMay 31, 2017
  7. Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2017
  8. Johannes SchindelinJun 1, 2017
  9. Junio C HamanoJun 1, 2017
  10. Stefan BellerJun 1, 2017
  11. pushing for a new hash, was Re: [PATCH 2/3] rebase: Add tests for console outputJohannes Schindelin, Jun 2, 2017
  12. Jonathan NiederJun 2, 2017
  13. Jonathan NiederJun 2, 2017
  14. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonJun 2, 2017
  15. Johannes SchindelinJun 15, 2017
  16. Junio C HamanoJun 3, 2017
  17. Johannes SchindelinJun 6, 2017
  18. Jonathan NiederJun 6, 2017
  19. Junio C HamanoJun 7, 2017
  20. t4005: modernize style and drop hard coded sha1Stefan Beller, Jun 7, 2017
  21. Brandon WilliamsJun 7, 2017
  22. Stefan BellerJun 6, 2017
  23. Jonathan NiederJun 6, 2017
  24. Samuel LijinJun 7, 2017
  25. Johannes SchindelinJun 7, 2017
  26. Stefan BellerJun 7, 2017
  27. Phillip WoodJun 7, 2017
  28. Junio C HamanoJun 9, 2017
  29. Phillip WoodJun 14, 2017
  30. Johannes SchindelinJun 14, 2017
  31. 0/3 Add regression tests for rectent rebase -i fixesPhillip Wood, Jun 14, 2017
  32. 1/3 rebase -i: Add test for reflog messagePhillip Wood, Jun 14, 2017
  33. 2/3 rebase: Add regression tests for console outputPhillip Wood, Jun 14, 2017
  34. 3/3 rebase: Add more regression tests for console outputPhillip Wood, Jun 14, 2017
  35. Johannes SchindelinJun 14, 2017
  36. Junio C HamanoJun 15, 2017
  37. Junio C HamanoJun 15, 2017
  38. Junio C HamanoJun 15, 2017
  39. Johannes SchindelinJun 16, 2017
  40. Johannes SixtJun 16, 2017
  41. Junio C HamanoJun 16, 2017
  42. Johannes SixtJun 19, 2017
  43. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2017
  44. Phillip WoodJun 19, 2017
  45. Junio C HamanoJun 19, 2017
  46. Phillip WoodJun 19, 2017
  47. 0/4 Add regression tests for recent rebase -i fixesPhillip Wood, Jun 19, 2017
  48. 1/4 sequencer: print autostash messages to stderrPhillip Wood, Jun 19, 2017
  49. 2/4 rebase -i: Add test for reflog messagePhillip Wood, Jun 19, 2017
  50. 3/4 rebase: Add regression tests for console outputPhillip Wood, Jun 19, 2017
  51. 4/4 rebase: Add more regression tests for console outputPhillip Wood, Jun 19, 2017
  52. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2017
  53. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2017
  54. Phillip WoodJun 23, 2017
  55. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2017
  56. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2017
  57. Phillip WoodJun 26, 2017
  58. Junio C HamanoJun 23, 2017
  59. Phillip WoodJun 26, 2017

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