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submodules, was Re: RFC: display dirty submodule working directory in git gui and gitk

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Johannes Schindelin <johannes.schindelin@gmx.de>
Date
Jan 4, 2010, 11:46 UTC
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Hi,
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Heiko Voigt wrote:
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> Johannes wrote:
> > The real problem is that submodules in the current form are not very 
> > well designed.  For example, a submodule being at a different commit 
> > than in the superproject's index is not as fatal as the submodule 
> > having changes.
> >
> > So in the long run, IMHO a proper redesign of the submodules would not 
> > make only a little sense (it does not help, though, that those who 
> > implemented and furthered the current approach over other discussed 
> > approaches do not use submodules themselves -- not even now).
> 
> Do you mean the complete workflow (submodules are links to other git 
> repos) or the current implementation? Do you have links to other design 
> approaches/threads? Would be nice if we could take that into account for 
> any decision.

Unfortunately, I do not have any information about different approaches except the approach Subversion takes. While Subversion's externals are not perfect for all applications, for some, they are. So I consider this a serious shortcoming that Git does not support that workflow (and in fact, AFAIR Shawn's repo does not use submodules for that exact reason).

But I think that an important precondition to come up with a better design of the submodules is to have suffered the current implementation in real-world work using submodules. (Which reminds me very much of the autocrlf mess.)

Ciao, Dscho

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Message 4 of 45 in “RFC: display dirty submodule working directory in git gui and gitk”
  1. Jens LehmannJan 2, 2010
  2. Johannes SchindelinJan 4, 2010
  3. Heiko VoigtJan 4, 2010
  4. submodules, was Re: RFC: display dirty submodule working directory in git gui and gitkJohannes Schindelin, Jan 4, 2010
  5. Avery PennarunJan 4, 2010
  6. Jens LehmannJan 4, 2010
  7. Jens LehmannJan 4, 2010
  8. submodules' shortcomings, was Re: RFC: display dirty submodule working directory in git gui and gitkJohannes Schindelin, Jan 4, 2010
  9. Shawn O. PearceJan 4, 2010
  10. Avery PennarunJan 4, 2010
  11. Avery PennarunJan 4, 2010
  12. Jens LehmannJan 5, 2010
  13. Junio C HamanoJan 5, 2010
  14. Johannes SchindelinJan 5, 2010
  15. Jens LehmannJan 5, 2010
  16. Junio C HamanoJan 5, 2010
  17. Jens LehmannJan 5, 2010
  18. Junio C HamanoJan 6, 2010
  19. Jens LehmannJan 6, 2010
  20. Junio C HamanoJan 6, 2010
  21. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyJan 6, 2010
  22. Junio C HamanoJan 6, 2010
  23. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyJan 6, 2010
  24. Jens LehmannJan 6, 2010
  25. Junio C HamanoJan 6, 2010
  26. Jens LehmannJan 6, 2010
  27. Jens LehmannJan 6, 2010
  28. Johannes SchindelinJan 5, 2010
  29. Johannes SchindelinJan 5, 2010
  30. Jens LehmannJan 5, 2010
  31. Heiko VoigtJan 5, 2010
  32. Johan HerlandJan 5, 2010
  33. Johannes SchindelinJan 5, 2010
  34. Nanako ShiraishiJan 5, 2010
  35. Johannes SchindelinJan 5, 2010
  36. Nanako ShiraishiJan 7, 2010
  37. Pau Garcia i QuilesJan 5, 2010
  38. cmake, was Re: submodules' shortcomingsJohannes Schindelin, Jan 5, 2010
  39. Pau Garcia i QuilesJan 6, 2010
  40. Miles BaderJan 6, 2010
  41. Johannes SchindelinJan 6, 2010
  42. Nguyen Thai Ngoc DuyJan 4, 2010
  43. Jens LehmannJan 4, 2010
  44. Junio C HamanoJan 4, 2010
  45. Jens LehmannJan 4, 2010

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