git/list[1] front-page[2] threads[3] people[4] search[5] about
 

Re: [PATCH v2 07/13] builtin/index-pack: don't fetch promised objects for collision check

From
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Date
Apr 29, 2025, 06:15 UTC
Message-ID
<aBBumhDhWoR9LEb3@pks.im>
In-Reply-To
<xmqq34dsarhv.fsf@gitster.g>
On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 02:46:52PM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
Show 32 quoted lines
> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> 
> > Any packed objects indexed via git-index-pack(1) are subject to a
> > collision check. This collision check has the intent to determine
> > whether we already have an object with the same object ID, but different
> > contents in the repository.
> >
> > The check whether the collision check is really needed is only performed
> > in case `repo_has_object_file_with_flags(..., OBJECT_INFO_QUICK)` tells
> > us that the object exists. But unless explicitly told otherwise by
> > passing `OBJECT_INFO_SKIP_FETCH_OBJECT`, this function will also cause
> > us to fetch the object in case it is part of a promisor pack. As such,
> > we may end up fetching the object only to check whether the fetched
> > object and the object that we're indexing have the same content.
> >
> > This behaviour is highly dubious and more likely than not unintended.
> > Fix it by converting to `has_object()`, which knows to neither reload
> > packfiles nor to fetch promisor objects by default.
> 
> It is unclear why you thing it is highly dubious from reading the
> above paragraph three times, though.
> 
> Is it that if we are suspicious of the incoming pack data we are
> indexing, we should also not be too trusting of the object that our
> promisor remote would be giving us?  To put it in reverse, our
> attitude being "we trust the first copy of object we saw", which
> translates to "we trust where we explicitly clone and fetch from" in
> the traditional world without lazy fetching, if somebody else we are
> explicitly fetching from offers us an object that the promisor
> remote would give us, we just do not bother if they are the same
> because it is not like we trust our promisor more than we trust the
> current counterpart we are fetching from?

Yes, exactly. When we don't have an object locally we don't have a trust anchor for verifying that contents of the object look as expected. So there are only two ways to do this:

  - Use a trust-on-first-use model. We trust the object we obtain
    initially and from thereon we start to treat it as the "correct"
    object and verify incoming objects with the same ID against it.
  - We only trust what everyone agrees one. In that case though we
    really should be cross-verifying with _all_ remotes, not only with
    the promisor remote.

Right now we do neither, but we end up treating the promisor as "more trusted" than any of the other remotes.

I think it's completely unintentional that we end up fetching the object from the promisor to perform a collision check against the packfile we are about to index. It is highly likely that the promisor remote and the remote that we're fetching from are the same anyway, so all this does is to waste resources.

Anyway, I'll evict these patches from this series. I think a couple of the sites are broken, but for now I care more about the bigger picture.

Patrick
Previous: Junio C HamanoNext: Patrick Steinhardt
Message 33 of 55 in “object-store: a handful of cleanups”
  1. 00/13 object-store: a handful of cleanupsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  2. 01/13 object-store: move `struct packed_git` into "packfile.h"Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  3. 02/13 object-store: drop `loose_object_path()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  4. 03/13 object-store: move and rename `odb_pack_keep()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  5. Karthik NayakApr 23, 2025
  6. 05/13 object-store: allow fetching objects via `has_object()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  7. Karthik NayakApr 23, 2025
  8. 04/13 object-store: move function declarations to their respective subsystemsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  9. 06/13 treewide: trivial conversions of `repo_has_object_file()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  10. 07/13 builtin/index-pack: don't fetch promised objects for collision checkPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  11. Karthik NayakApr 23, 2025
  12. Patrick SteinhardtApr 25, 2025
  13. Karthik NayakApr 28, 2025
  14. 08/13 builtin/show-ref: don't fetch objects when printing refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  15. 09/13 refs: don't fetch promisor objects in `ref_resolves_to_object()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  16. Karthik NayakApr 23, 2025
  17. 10/13 http-walker: don't fetch objects via promisor remotesPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  18. 11/13 list-objects: clarify how promised blobs are excludedPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  19. 12/13 bulk-checkin: don't fetch promised objects on writePatrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  20. 13/13 object-store: drop `repo_has_object_file()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 23, 2025
  21. Karthik NayakApr 23, 2025
  22. Patrick SteinhardtApr 25, 2025
  23. 00/13 object-store: a handful of cleanupsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  24. 01/13 object-store: move `struct packed_git` into "packfile.h"Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  25. 02/13 object-store: drop `loose_object_path()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  26. 03/13 object-store: move and rename `odb_pack_keep()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  27. 04/13 object-store: move function declarations to their respective subsystemsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  28. 05/13 object-store: allow fetching objects via `has_object()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  29. 06/13 treewide: trivial conversions of `repo_has_object_file()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  30. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2025
  31. 07/13 builtin/index-pack: don't fetch promised objects for collision checkPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  32. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2025
  33. Patrick SteinhardtApr 29, 2025
  34. 08/13 builtin/show-ref: don't fetch objects when printing refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  35. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2025
  36. 09/13 refs: don't fetch promisor objects in `ref_resolves_to_object()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  37. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2025
  38. 10/13 http-walker: don't fetch objects via promisor remotesPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  39. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2025
  40. 11/13 list-objects: clarify how promised blobs are excludedPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  41. 12/13 bulk-checkin: don't fetch promised objects on writePatrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  42. Junio C HamanoApr 28, 2025
  43. Patrick SteinhardtApr 29, 2025
  44. Junio C HamanoApr 29, 2025
  45. 13/13 object-store: drop `repo_has_object_file()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 25, 2025
  46. Karthik NayakApr 28, 2025
  47. 0/7 object-store: a handful of cleanupsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  48. 1/7 object-store: move `struct packed_git` into "packfile.h"Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  49. 2/7 object-store: drop `loose_object_path()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  50. 3/7 object-store: move and rename `odb_pack_keep()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  51. 4/7 object-store: move function declarations to their respective subsystemsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  52. 5/7 object-store: allow fetching objects via `has_object()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  53. 6/7 treewide: convert users of `repo_has_object_file()` to `has_object()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  54. 7/7 object-store: drop `repo_has_object_file()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2025
  55. Junio C HamanoApr 29, 2025

Read the whole thread, see it on lore, or plain text.

$ cat FOOTERMessages come from the public archive at lore.kernel.org/git, fetched every hour. The front page is chosen and written each morning by an AI editor and can be wrong; the threads themselves are the record. About and API. For agents: an MCP server at https://gitlist.dev/mcp, and any thread, story or person page as Markdown by adding .md to its URL (or sending Accept: text/markdown). Details in /llms.txt.