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Re: [PATCH 2/3] refs: do not label special refs as pseudo refs

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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
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Apr 30, 2024, 12:16 UTC
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 06:23:10AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 09:30:05AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
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> > > Are there any practical implications of the changes in this patch for users
> > > running commands like "git log FETCH_HEAD" (I can't think of any off the top
> > > of my head but it would be good to have some reassurance on that point in
> > > the commit message)
> > 
> > Not really, no. We have never been doing a good job at enforcing the
> > difference between pseudo refs or normal refs anyway. Pseudo refs can be
> > symrefs just fine, and our tooling won't complain. The only exception
> > where I want us to become stricter is in how we enforce the syntax rules
> > for root refs (which is handled by Peff in a separate patch series), and
> > that we start to not treat FETCH_HEAD and MERGE_HEAD as proper refs.
> > They should still resolve when you ask git-rev-parse(1), but when you
> > iterate through refs they should not be surfaced as they _aren't_ refs.
> 
> I actually would not even mind if they are surfaced when iterating with
> --include-root-refs. But then I am a little skeptical of the purpose of
> that feature in the first place. After all, the reason code shoves stuff
> into .git/FOO_HEAD is precisely because we don't want other stuff
> iterating over them, using them for reachability, and so on. That is why
> "--all" does not include them, for example.
> 
> But I did not follow the development of the feature, so maybe I am
> missing some cool use case.

The thing is that once we start to surface pseudorefs (in the sense of these _really_ aren't refs) in ref-related tooling, users will want to treat them as a ref, as well. And that's just bound to happen with plumbing like `git for-each-ref`, where a user may rightfully expect that all output here can be treated like a normal ref.

In fact though, I want to double down on restrictions regarding the pseudorefs FETCH_HEAD and MERGE_HEAD. While it's fair enough that those can be read like a ref, writing to them is a totally different thing. It does not make any sense to try and write such refs, and our abstractions aren't even prepared to write them correctly. They go through the ref backend, and thus the "reftable" backend would write them into the reftable stack instead of into the filesystem. Now you could argue that this should be fixed, but I don't think it is reasonable to expect the reftable backend to start writing loose refs for those pseudorefs.

So I'd really like to stick with the current explanation that we have in the "special ref" glossary: pseudorefs must be written via the filesystem and can't ever go through the ref backends.

Patrick
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Message 11 of 93 in “Clarify pseudo-ref terminology”
  1. 0/3 Clarify pseudo-ref terminologyPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2024
  2. 1/3 refs: move `is_special_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2024
  3. 2/3 refs: do not label special refs as pseudo refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2024
  4. Phillip WoodApr 29, 2024
  5. Patrick SteinhardtApr 30, 2024
  6. Phillip WoodApr 30, 2024
  7. Patrick SteinhardtApr 30, 2024
  8. Jeff KingApr 30, 2024
  9. Karthik NayakApr 30, 2024
  10. Patrick SteinhardtApr 30, 2024
  11. Patrick SteinhardtApr 30, 2024
  12. Junio C HamanoApr 29, 2024
  13. Justin ToblerApr 29, 2024
  14. Patrick SteinhardtApr 30, 2024
  15. Jean-Noël AVILAMay 9, 2024
  16. Patrick SteinhardtMay 10, 2024
  17. 3/3 refs: fix segfault in `is_pseudoref()` when ref cannot be resolvedPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 29, 2024
  18. Phillip WoodApr 29, 2024
  19. Karthik NayakApr 29, 2024
  20. Phillip WoodApr 29, 2024
  21. Karthik NayakApr 29, 2024
  22. Patrick SteinhardtApr 30, 2024
  23. 00/10 Clarify pseudo-ref terminologyPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  24. 01/10 Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  25. Karthik NayakApr 30, 2024
  26. Justin ToblerApr 30, 2024
  27. Junio C HamanoApr 30, 2024
  28. Patrick SteinhardtMay 2, 2024
  29. 02/10 Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  30. Kristoffer HaugsbakkApr 30, 2024
  31. 03/10 Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  32. Karthik NayakApr 30, 2024
  33. 04/10 refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  34. Junio C HamanoApr 30, 2024
  35. 05/10 refs: refname `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  36. Karthik NayakApr 30, 2024
  37. 06/10 refs: classify HEAD as a root refPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  38. 07/10 refs: root refs can be symbolic refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  39. Justin ToblerApr 30, 2024
  40. Patrick SteinhardtMay 2, 2024
  41. Justin ToblerMay 3, 2024
  42. Patrick SteinhardtMay 7, 2024
  43. 08/10 refs: pseudorefs are no refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  44. 09/10 ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  45. Karthik NayakApr 30, 2024
  46. Patrick SteinhardtMay 2, 2024
  47. Karthik NayakMay 2, 2024
  48. 10/10 refs: refuse to write pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, Apr 30, 2024
  49. 00/10 Clarify pseudo-ref terminologyPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  50. 01/10 Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  51. 02/10 Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  52. 03/10 Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  53. 04/10 refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  54. 05/10 refs: refname `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  55. 06/10 refs: classify HEAD as a root refPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  56. 07/10 refs: root refs can be symbolic refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  57. Jeff KingMay 3, 2024
  58. Patrick SteinhardtMay 15, 2024
  59. Patrick SteinhardtMay 15, 2024
  60. Jeff KingMay 15, 2024
  61. Patrick SteinhardtMay 15, 2024
  62. Jeff KingMay 15, 2024
  63. Patrick SteinhardtMay 15, 2024
  64. Jeff KingMay 15, 2024
  65. 08/10 refs: pseudorefs are no refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  66. 09/10 ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  67. 10/10 refs: refuse to write pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, May 2, 2024
  68. 00/10 Clarify pseudo-ref terminologyPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  69. 01/10 Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  70. 02/10 Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  71. 03/10 Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  72. 04/10 refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  73. 05/10 refs: refname `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  74. 06/10 refs: root refs can be symbolic refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  75. 07/10 refs: classify HEAD as a root refPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  76. 08/10 refs: pseudorefs are no refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  77. 09/10 ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  78. 10/10 refs: refuse to write pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, May 10, 2024
  79. Junio C HamanoMay 10, 2024
  80. 00/10 Clarify pseudo-ref terminologyPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  81. 01/10 Documentation/glossary: redefine pseudorefs as special refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  82. 02/10 Documentation/glossary: clarify limitations of pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  83. 03/10 Documentation/glossary: define root refs as refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  84. 04/10 refs: rename `is_pseudoref()` to `is_root_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  85. 05/10 refs: rename `is_special_ref()` to `is_pseudo_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  86. 06/10 refs: do not check ref existence in `is_root_ref()`Patrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  87. Justin ToblerMay 15, 2024
  88. Patrick SteinhardtMay 16, 2024
  89. 07/10 refs: classify HEAD as a root refPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  90. Justin ToblerMay 15, 2024
  91. 08/10 refs: pseudorefs are no refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  92. 09/10 ref-filter: properly distinuish pseudo and root refsPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024
  93. 10/10 refs: refuse to write pseudorefsPatrick Steinhardt, May 15, 2024

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