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Re: [PATCH 09/24] repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` mode

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Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Date
Dec 11, 2023, 08:18 UTC
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On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:48:28PM -0500, Taylor Blau wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 09:19:25AM +0100, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> > > > One thing I wondered: do we need to consider the `-l` flag? When using
> > > > an alternate object directory it is totally feasible that the alternate
> > > > may be creating new disjoint packages without us knowing, and thus we
> > > > may not be able to guarantee the disjoint property anymore.
> > >
> > > I don't think so. We'd only care about one direction of this (that
> > > alternates do not create disjoint packs which overlap with ours, instead
> > > of the other way around), but since we don't put non-local packs in the
> > > MIDX, I think we're OK.
> > >
> > > I suppose that you might run into trouble if you use the chained MIDX
> > > thing (via its `->next` pointer). I haven't used that feature myself, so
> > > I'd have to play around with it.
> >
> > We do use this feature at GitLab for forks, where forks connect to a
> > common alternate object directory to deduplicate objects. As both the
> > fork repository and the alternate object directory use an MIDX I think
> > they would be set up exactly like that.
> 
> Yep, that's right. I wasn't sure whether or not this feature had been
> used extensively in production or not (we don't use it at GitHub, since
> objects only live in their fork repositories for a short while before
> moving to the fork network repository).
> 
> > I guess the only really viable solution here is to ignore disjoint packs
> > in the main repo that connects to the alternate in the case where the
> > alternate has any disjoint packs itself.
> 
> I think the behavior you'd get here is that we'd only look for disjoint
> packs in the first MIDX in the chain (which is always the local one),
> and we'd only recognizes packs from that MIDX as being potentially
> disjoint.
> 
> If you have the bulk of your repositories in the alternate, then I think
> you might want to consider how we combine the two. 

Yes, in the general case the bulk of objects is indeed contained in the alternate.

> My sense is that you'd want to be disjoint with respect to anything
> downstream of you.

Ideally yes, but this is unfortunately not easily achievable in the general case. It's one of the many painpoints that alternates bring with them.

Suppose two forks A and B are connected to the same alternate. Both A and B now gain the same set of objects via whatever means. At this point these objects can be stored in disjoint packs in each of the repos as they are not yet deduplicated via the alternate. But if you were to pull objects from either A or B into the alternate then you cannot ensure disjointedness at all anymore because you would first have to repack objects in both A and B.

For two forks this might still seem manageable. But as soon as your fork network grows larger it's clear that this becomes almost impossible to do. So ultimately, I don't see an alternative to ignoring disjointedness bits in either of the two linked-together repos.

> Whether or not this is a feature that you/others need, I definitely
> think we should leave it out of this series, since I am (a) fairly
> certain that this is possible to do, and (b) already feel like this
> series on its own is complicated enough.

I'm perfectly fine if we say that the benefits of your patch series cannot yet be applied to repositories with alternates. But from my point of view it's a requirement that this patch series does not silently break this usecase due to Git starting to generate disjointed packs where it cannot ensure that the disjointedness property holds.

As I haven't yet read through this whole patch series, the question is boils down to whether the end result is opt-in or opt-out. If it was opt-out then I could see the above usecase breaking silently. If it was opt-in then things should be fine and we can address this ommission in a follow up patch series. We at GitLab would definitely be interested in helping out with this given that it directly affects us and that the demonstrated savings seem very promising.

Patrick
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  1. 00/24 pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuseTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  2. 01/24 pack-objects: free packing_data in more placesTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  3. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  4. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  5. 02/24 pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slabTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  6. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  7. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  8. Jeff KingDec 12, 2023
  9. Taylor BlauDec 12, 2023
  10. 03/24 pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects()Taylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  11. Jeff KingDec 12, 2023
  12. 04/24 midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()`Taylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  13. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  14. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  15. 05/24 midx: implement `DISP` chunkTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  16. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  17. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  18. Junio C HamanoDec 3, 2023
  19. Taylor BlauDec 5, 2023
  20. Junio C HamanoDec 9, 2023
  21. Taylor BlauDec 9, 2023
  22. Jeff KingDec 12, 2023
  23. Taylor BlauDec 13, 2023
  24. Junio C HamanoDec 13, 2023
  25. 06/24 midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()`Taylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  26. 07/24 midx: implement `--retain-disjoint` modeTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  27. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  28. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  29. Patrick SteinhardtDec 1, 2023
  30. 08/24 pack-objects: implement `--ignore-disjoint` modeTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  31. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  32. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  33. Patrick SteinhardtDec 1, 2023
  34. Taylor BlauDec 1, 2023
  35. 09/24 repack: implement `--extend-disjoint` modeTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  36. Patrick SteinhardtDec 7, 2023
  37. Taylor BlauDec 7, 2023
  38. Patrick SteinhardtDec 8, 2023
  39. Taylor BlauDec 8, 2023
  40. Patrick SteinhardtDec 11, 2023
  41. Taylor BlauDec 11, 2023
  42. 10/24 pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functionsTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  43. Patrick SteinhardtDec 7, 2023
  44. Taylor BlauDec 7, 2023
  45. Patrick SteinhardtDec 8, 2023
  46. 11/24 pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signatureTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  47. Patrick SteinhardtDec 7, 2023
  48. Taylor BlauDec 7, 2023
  49. 12/24 pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()`Taylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  50. 13/24 pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single packTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  51. 14/24 pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse packTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  52. Patrick SteinhardtDec 7, 2023
  53. Taylor BlauDec 7, 2023
  54. 15/24 pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functionsTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  55. 16/24 pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuseTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  56. Patrick SteinhardtDec 7, 2023
  57. Taylor BlauDec 7, 2023
  58. 17/24 pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` for multi-pack reuseTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  59. 18/24 pack-objects: include number of packs reused in outputTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  60. 19/24 pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuseTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  61. 20/24 pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metricsTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  62. 21/24 t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helperTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  63. 22/24 pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single"Taylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  64. 23/24 pack-bitmap: reuse objects from all disjoint packsTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  65. 24/24 t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuseTaylor Blau, Nov 28, 2023
  66. Patrick SteinhardtNov 30, 2023
  67. Taylor BlauNov 30, 2023
  68. Patrick SteinhardtDec 1, 2023
  69. Taylor BlauDec 1, 2023
  70. Patrick SteinhardtDec 4, 2023
  71. Jeff KingDec 12, 2023
  72. Taylor BlauDec 15, 2023
  73. Jeff KingDec 21, 2023
  74. Taylor BlauJan 4, 2024
  75. 00/26 pack-objects: multi-pack verbatim reuseTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  76. 01/26 pack-objects: free packing_data in more placesTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  77. 02/26 pack-bitmap-write: deep-clear the `bb_commit` slabTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  78. 03/26 pack-bitmap: plug leak in find_objects()Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  79. 04/26 midx: factor out `fill_pack_info()`Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  80. 05/26 midx: implement `BTMP` chunkTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  81. 06/26 midx: implement `midx_locate_pack()`Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  82. 07/26 pack-bitmap: pass `bitmapped_pack` struct to pack-reuse functionsTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  83. 08/26 ewah: implement `bitmap_is_empty()`Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  84. 09/26 pack-bitmap: simplify `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()` signatureTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  85. 10/26 pack-bitmap: return multiple packs via `reuse_partial_packfile_from_bitmap()`Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  86. 11/26 pack-objects: parameterize pack-reuse routines over a single packTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  87. 12/26 pack-objects: keep track of `pack_start` for each reuse packTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  88. 13/26 pack-objects: pass `bitmapped_pack`'s to pack-reuse functionsTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  89. 14/26 pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack()` for multi-pack reuseTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  90. 15/26 pack-objects: prepare `write_reused_pack_verbatim()` for multi-pack reuseTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  91. 16/26 pack-objects: include number of packs reused in outputTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  92. 17/26 git-compat-util.h: implement checked size_t to uint32_t conversionTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  93. 18/26 midx: implement `midx_preferred_pack()`Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  94. 19/26 pack-revindex: factor out `midx_key_to_pack_pos()` helperTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  95. 20/26 pack-revindex: implement `midx_pair_to_pack_pos()`Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  96. 21/26 pack-bitmap: prepare to mark objects from multiple packs for reuseTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  97. 22/26 pack-objects: add tracing for various packfile metricsTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  98. 23/26 t/test-lib-functions.sh: implement `test_trace2_data` helperTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  99. 24/26 pack-objects: allow setting `pack.allowPackReuse` to "single"Taylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  100. 25/26 pack-bitmap: enable reuse from all bitmapped packsTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  101. 26/26 t/perf: add performance tests for multi-pack reuseTaylor Blau, Dec 14, 2023
  102. Junio C HamanoDec 15, 2023
  103. Taylor BlauDec 15, 2023
  104. Junio C HamanoDec 15, 2023
  105. Taylor BlauDec 15, 2023
  106. Jeff KingDec 21, 2023
  107. Taylor BlauJan 4, 2024

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