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Re: [PATCH v3 6/6] Makefile: build "$(FUZZ_OBJS)" in CI, not under "all"

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Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Date
Feb 23, 2021, 18:28 UTC
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:41:32PM +0100, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
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> Adding $(FUZZ_OBJS) as a dependency on "all" was intentionally done in
> 5e472150800 (fuzz: add basic fuzz testing target., 2018-10-12).
> 
> Rather than needlessly build these objects which aren't required for
> the build every time we make "all", let's instead move them to be
> built by the CI jobs.
> 
> The goal is to make sure that we don't inadvertently break these, we
> can accomplish that goal by building them in CI, rather than slowing
> down every build of git for everyone everywhere.

The current state is that regular devs are responsible for avoiding compile breakages in the fuzz objects, even if they don't care themselves. Your earlier patches turned this into: regular devs are not on the hook for breaking fuzz objects; they are the responsibility of fuzz people. I'm OK with either of those, but this approach seems to me like the worst of both worlds. ;)

If you do a refactor, you are still on the hook for breaking the fuzz objects because CI will fail (and you have to investigate it, and fix it for CI to remain a useful tool). But instead of finding out about the problem quickly as you're working, instead you push up what you think is a finished result, and then from minutes to hours later you get a notification telling you that oops, you missed a spot. I find that the shorter the error-fix-compile cycle is, the less time I waste waiting or context-switching.

If we had a ton of fuzz object files that took forever to build, the savings on each build might be worth it. But AFAICT (from timing "make clean; make -j1" before and after), we are saving less than 1% of the build time (which is way less than the run-to-run noise).

It doesn't seem like the right tradeoff to me. (Likewise, if other CI-only checks we have, like coccinelle, could be run at a similar cost, I'd recommend sticking them into the default developer build).

One thing we _could_ do is stop building fuzz objects as part of "all", but include them for DEVELOPER=1 builds (which includes CI). That keeps them from hurting normal users (who don't actually need them), but prevents bitrot. It doesn't address your original motivation though (you as a developer would probably still be building them).

-Peff
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Message 25 of 39 in “Makefile: micro-optimize light non-test builds”
  1. 0/4 Makefile: micro-optimize light non-test buildsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 26, 2021
  2. 1/4 Makefile: refactor assignment for subsequent changeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 26, 2021
  3. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2021
  4. 3/4 Makefile: add a NO_TEST_TOOLS flagÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 26, 2021
  5. 4/4 Makefile: add a NO_{INSTALL_,}SCRIPT_FALLBACKS targetÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 26, 2021
  6. 2/4 Makefile: refactor for subsequent changeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 26, 2021
  7. Jeff KingJan 26, 2021
  8. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2021
  9. Jeff KingJan 27, 2021
  10. Junio C HamanoJan 27, 2021
  11. 0/6 Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git}-objs & objects targetsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 28, 2021
  12. 0/6 Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git}-objs & objects targetsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  13. Junio C HamanoFeb 3, 2021
  14. Jeff KingFeb 4, 2021
  15. Junio C HamanoFeb 4, 2021
  16. 0/6 Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git,fuzz}-objs & objects targetsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  17. Junio C HamanoFeb 23, 2021
  18. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  19. 1/6 Makefile: guard against TEST_OBJS in the environmentÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  20. 2/6 Makefile: split up long OBJECTS lineÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  21. 4/6 Makefile: split OBJECTS into OBJECTS and GIT_OBJSÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  22. 3/6 Makefile: sort OBJECTS assignment for subsequent changeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  23. 5/6 Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git,fuzz}-objs & objects targetsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  24. 6/6 Makefile: build "$(FUZZ_OBJS)" in CI, not under "all"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 23, 2021
  25. Jeff KingFeb 23, 2021
  26. Junio C HamanoFeb 23, 2021
  27. Ævar Arnfjörð BjarmasonFeb 28, 2021
  28. Jeff KingMar 1, 2021
  29. 1/6 Makefile: remove "all" on "$(FUZZ_OBJS)"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  30. Jeff KingFeb 4, 2021
  31. 3/6 Makefile: split up long OBJECTS lineÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  32. 2/6 Makefile: guard against TEST_OBJS in the environmentÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  33. 4/6 Makefile: sort OBJECTS assignment for subsequent changeÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  34. 6/6 Makefile: add {program,xdiff,test,git}-objs & objects targetsÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  35. Junio C HamanoFeb 1, 2021
  36. 5/6 Makefile: split OBJECTS into OBJECTS and GIT_OBJSÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Feb 1, 2021
  37. 1/6 Makefile: remove "all" on "$(FUZZ_OBJS)"Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 28, 2021
  38. 2/6 Makefile: guard against TEST_OBJS in the environmentÆvar Arnfjörð Bjarmason, Jan 28, 2021
  39. Junio C HamanoJan 29, 2021

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