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Re: Mozilla .git tree

From
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Date
Sep 2, 2006, 18:56 UTC
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<Pine.LNX.4.64.0609021151280.27779@g5.osdl.org>
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<20060902173922.GA27826@spearce.org>
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Shawn Pearce wrote:
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> Jon Smirl <jonsmirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> > If you're going to redo the pack formats another big win for the
> > Mozilla pack is to convert pack internal sha1 references into file
> > offsets.within the pack. Doing that will take around 30MB off from the
> > Mozilla pack size. sha1's are not compressible so this is a direct
> > savings.
> 
> Right now Junio's working on the index to break the 4 GiB barrier.
> I think Junio and Nico have already agreed to change the base SHA1
> to be an offset instead; though this is an issue for the current
> way the base gets written out behind the delta as you need to know
> exactly how many bytes the delta is going to be so you can correctly
> compute the offset.

I think moving the delta to after the base object is fine, and solves that problem.

However, the "--thin" pack problem is potentially worse, since the object you delta against doesn't even _exist_, and as such you'd then end up having two totally different formats (or perhaps we'd add a new object type for use in thin packs: a "dummy object" that says "my type is <so-and-so> and my SHA1 is <so-and-so>, you'd better have me already".

I'm not actually personally convinced that we need to solve the 4GB pack-file problem right now. Does anybody have that problem yet? The "partial mapping" issue is a much bigger one, I suspect, even if the tree delta stuff seems to have fixed it largely (yes?) for the mozilla fast-import pack-file.

So in many ways, I'd think that the 4GB problem is one where we are perfectly happy to _know_ that a solution exists, rather than have to actually solve it today.

Of course, if we change the pack/index-file format for other reasons, then we should obviously fix the 4G issue at the same time, but were there actually any real other reasons at this point?

			Linus
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  1. Shawn PearceAug 30, 2006
  2. Shawn PearceAug 30, 2006
  3. Jon SmirlAug 30, 2006
  4. Shawn PearceAug 30, 2006
  5. Jon SmirlAug 30, 2006
  6. Nicolas PitreAug 30, 2006
  7. Junio C HamanoAug 30, 2006
  8. Junio C HamanoSep 1, 2006
  9. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  10. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  11. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  12. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  13. Jon SmirlSep 2, 2006
  14. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  15. Linus TorvaldsSep 2, 2006
  16. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  17. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  18. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  19. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  20. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  21. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  22. Shawn PearceSep 3, 2006
  23. A Large Angry SCMSep 1, 2006
  24. Linus TorvaldsSep 1, 2006
  25. Junio C HamanoSep 1, 2006
  26. pack-objects: re-validate data we copy from elsewhere.Junio C Hamano, Sep 1, 2006
  27. Linus TorvaldsSep 2, 2006
  28. VGER BF report?Johannes Schindelin, Sep 2, 2006
  29. Sam RavnborgSep 2, 2006
  30. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  31. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  32. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  33. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  34. Linus TorvaldsSep 2, 2006
  35. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  36. Shawn PearceSep 2, 2006
  37. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2006
  38. Shawn PearceSep 4, 2006
  39. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2006
  40. Shawn PearceSep 4, 2006
  41. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2006
  42. Linus TorvaldsSep 3, 2006
  43. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2006
  44. Junio C HamanoSep 5, 2006
  45. Linus TorvaldsSep 2, 2006
  46. Junio C HamanoSep 2, 2006
  47. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2006
  48. Linus TorvaldsSep 3, 2006
  49. Linus TorvaldsSep 3, 2006
  50. Junio C HamanoSep 3, 2006
  51. Junio C HamanoSep 4, 2006
  52. Linus TorvaldsSep 4, 2006

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